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I’ve been trying to talk my wife into dropping the brightness to 50% for years. Her phone is so bright it keeps ME up at night on the other side of the bed. I have to set up a light shield to go to sleep :P
Don’t call me put like this just after I wake up!
Science is totally right here, I have no doubt. It’s just… that I have zero regard for my own health.
Monkey brain need dopamines 🥺
Just because I believe doesn’t mean I listen.
If you really wanna ruin your day, apparently late night eating and skipping breakfast also fucks with the rhythm. The body has a few things it uses to keep the internal clock going, not just light.
I didn’t know my mom was on Lemmy…
I get why you shouldn’t use it before bed but why not after waking up? If it keeps you awake shouldn’t it help you wake up?
allegedly
you are priming your brain for distraction
that info comes from Julie Morgenstern, an organizing & productivity consultant, so I dunno how scientific it is…
Also, it’s forbes
That’s a good way to start my work day then because I’m constantly moving from one fire to another.
I mean, those two things aren’t mutually exclusive. I can believe the science AND ALSO engage in behaviors it says are unhealthy for me.
I have night light mode on my phone. So I’m good!!!
That’s not a scientific thing tho ! Proven to have no effect in fact.
Apple wouldn’t lie to me.
Proven to have no effect in fact.
I thought the blue light was the problem.
Proven*
Samples sizes are always small, confounding variables poorly controlled and control groups often contaminated.
Long term effect are also poorly studied.
I agree. I believe science but I seriously think the BIPM (Bureau International des Poids et Mesures) is wrong. They made SI bad by glossing over the necessary base unit of angle, there should be 8 base dimension, not 7.
Except it’s not a unit, it’s a unitless ratio. You’d have one for every number of dimension. The mol is arguably the extra one.
Me using phones : wow, I can sleep at 1am, great.
Me “just going to bed” : great, it’s 4am and I’m still overthinking my shortcomings!Yeah this is me as well. I just overthink for hours without a distraction. Give me a phone or something to watch and I’m out in 15 minutes honestly. I feel bad because I know I’m probably degrading my sleep but…as least I’m sleeping.
Yep. Numbing the thoughts away with constant input helps the body gain the upper hand and let me go to sleep.
Believing in science helps me understand why my “beer belly” is so damn big.
I know it’s bad for me.
I’m just too tired to care.
I need my nebuliser ASMR every morning I have to go to work or I will be very grumpy all day
Wait for real?
I have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome… light has no effect on me. Checkmate scientists!
Me too!
Question: does your schedule slowly morph and change over time or does it stay consistent?
Because I think I have non-24 on top of it and I was wondering if it was part of the normal symptoms or not.
If I let myself I will easily fall into a 28-30 hour cycle and end up only going through 5 or 6 “days” in a week.
I have a strong feeling I do too, inherited from my mom (both of us self-diagnosed). I also appreciate you calling it a syndrome and not a disorder. It’s only a “disorder” because society decided to only accommodate one type of circadian rhythm. Humans have needed people on night watch forever, my money is that this was an advantageous phenomenon.
How were you diagnosed? I’ve experienced a similar difficulty keeping a consistent sleep schedule but I’d always assumed it was screen related
Not OP but I was diagnosed by being sent to a sleep specialist. I complained of fatigue to my PCP so they checked me for sleep apnea and during the initial meeting I described my schedule and what is typical for me. At the end of the questioning I said “yeah, I’ve suspected I have a sleep disorder or something” and she said “you definitely have delayed sleep phase disorder” and BOOM it was in my chart.
Easiest diagnosis ever. It helps if you keep a sleep log for a little bit. I can’t guarantee the ease of your diagnosis but mine was just being honest instead of lying and pretending to have a normal day walker schedule.
When it didn’t go away when I was temporarily taken off my adhd meds as a teen. Before that they thought it was just because of the meds. That was apparently also the earliest indication that I would have adult adhd. If you have an adhd doc talk to them about it, it’s pretty common to have both.
More evidence that confirms my personal theory that I do have at least a touch of ADHD. Not sure going through the whole process of diagnosis would help me any though
Small rant, but people saying they believe in science is a pet peeve of mine. Belief has no place olin science.
You can’t “believe” in science any more than you can “know” in your religion.
Belief and faith are the realm of the unknowable. Knowledge and fact are the realm of science.
Knowledge is itself a justified true belief. Also, the scientific method is the best way of obtaining empirical knowledge, but the idea that empirical evidence is true is still a belief, and not even that justified. Also also, science is constantly trying to prove itself wrong. It’s unlikely that what we think now based on scientific methods will be the same we think in the future.
When people say they “believe” in science, I think they mean they are putting their faith into the scientists performing the science. That whatever conclusion they come to after an experiment or study is the correct conclusion.
I’m sure you can find the flaw in doing so, as science is constantly being debunked. A good example that comes to mind is the alpha wolf theory.
It can be argued that while science strives to be in the realm of knowledge and fact, it doesn’t always succeed in doing so. At least not in the first rounds of study. And I think that’s what its strength is; being able to correct itself in the pursuit of knowledge and fact. All the same, science is run by humans, and humans are fallible. But despite that fallibility, some people are willing to put their faith into scientists because of their constant pursuit for the truth. Even if what they said yesterday got debunked today, it doesn’t make yesterday’s scientists any lesser. It only means we are all better for it.
When people say they “believe” in science, I think they mean they are putting their faith into the scientists performing the science. That whatever conclusion they come to after an experiment or study is the correct conclusion.
That’s literally what they mean, where “scientists” may as easily mean real scientists as charlatans.
It’s still completely antagonistic to how science is practiced (if scientists behaved like that, they would never learn anything), and something closer to religion than science.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/believe
“To consider to be true or honest”
I don’t know what you think believe means but you’re wrong
Literally the second definition “To hold as an opinion”
Ah, if it’s one of the definitions, it must be the only definition.
You can believe that an answer can be found scientifically. You can have faith that what you see with your eyes, and that what happens during experimentation is accurate and not a fluke or trick of some sort.
Just because religion dominates most belief, and there are strong religious groups that hold that belief and faith are binary with no wiggle room whatsoever does not mean that it’s the only way they can function. On can still test faith and belief without losing them, and changing those beliefs to what holds more truth.
Holding that that belief and faith have no part in science… is a belief in and of itself. A particularly contradictory one at that.
I am not smart enough to come to my own conclusions about a lot of science, so yes I must believe what the collective scientific community asserts, because I have no other way to prove things that happen. For me, that means putting my faith in their accuracy. So yes, I believe in science.
It should also be noted that there are people out there that treat science as a religion; that it is infallible, and cannot be changed, and to suggest otherwise is blasphemy. 🤷♂️
“believe in” religion
“understand” scienceSounds like someone needs to spend a day or two going down a wikipedia rabbit hole about the concept of knowledge.
Hello, Ordo Machinum? This heretic right here!
Now that you mention it, my phone is by far the most reliable alarm clock I’ve ever had. It does DST switches for me. The battery recharges itself. I just never noticed because phones sucked at first.
We have phones doubling as alarm clocks to thank for the technological gains in RTC (realtime clock) chips, and deeper CPU sleep states.
All new chips have robust sleep options these days because phones needed to be reliable alarm clocks when “off”.
Efficient RTC chips with alarm pins, born out of that chaotic era
We should also thank Network Time Protocol. And if wireless carriers are using something else, perhaps that too.
