• The AI-driven memory shortage doesn’t just affect PCs
  • More capacity is coming, but not before 2027
  • Low-margin budget products are likely to be hit hardest
    • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      I just want a straight up monitor with no built in wifi or Bluetooth or even speakers.

      Just display the image I want it to when I want it to.

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        I use old dumb tvs as monitors. They don’t have the best picture, but are better and cheaper than anything currently for sale.

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        Literally this. Let me use my own fucking box and my own goddamn pc how I want with big monitor. Also put DP on it fuck HDMI. I don’t need trackers in my bloody tv OS. My tv has an OS!!! That’s ridiculous. Sorry this is one of those things I’ve always been super pissed about.

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          For real, all my TVs are Sceptre. They are not easy to find, but they are incredibly reasonably priced and completely dumb perfection.

          If people like us make them popular enough, maybe they’ll realize this is a lucrative niche market.

    • Tim_Bisley@piefed.social
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      Man I’m really dreading buying a new TV. Been going strong with my plasma for years. I don’t need any “smart” features in a tv. From what I understand you either get a good TV or a “dumb” TV, pick one.

      • chillpanzee@lemmy.ml
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        Yeah, pretty much. Any decent display on a TV is gonna have all the shit you don’t want, but you can (at least for now) just not connect your smart TV to the internet. You;'d have a good TV with the “smarts” neutered. But you’re still paying for it.

        It’s a bit like the ATSC broadcast stack. You likely aren’t using it, but the industry still makes you pay for it (and it’s not cheap).

      • blitzen@lemmy.ca
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        But a good tv, and don’t connect it to the internet. Apple TV or Shield device.

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          televisions of the near future when you first turn them on: “Internet connection and account required to complete initial product set up.”

          • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
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            I would immediately return that as defective. I’d rather use that old 1980’s portable TV that’s been collecting dust in my closet since they shut down the analog TV broadcasts.

    • ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world
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      Linear components like power amplifiers are made from the same material as digital circuitry, and they use a lot more of it.

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    I 'member when headphones were just a copper wire to a magnet dressed in plastic, and none of this garbage required memory. Can we go back to that age? Thanks.

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    2027 sounds right. No way these fabs don’t know this shit is temporary, so unlikely they’ll increase production.

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      Unfortunately it’s the people between the manufacturers and the consumers that think this current iteration of AI is the future. They even seem to think we want it and can’t wait to pay them for it.

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        No one thinks that. Not the hardware OEMs, not the consumers, not the CEOs, not even the investors. It’s all just a grift to see how high it can get before it pops.

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    Question: will AI eventually hurt computer chips? Like memory companies, the TSMC also only have finite production capacity.

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    Why do TV’s and audio gear use memory? TV’s ok I can sort of understand a little, but audio? That’s still analog right? Or anyway mostly analog.

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      All digital devices will use some amount of memory. Audio devices are all digital these days and only use a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) to generate the actual audio waveform from a raw sample stream.

      On something like a standalone audio amp there still has to be the whole backend to store codec information, menus and settings, and a whole host of other controls and audio processing features that are likely implemented on top of a basic OS and not directly written to a microcontroller. There’s more memory than you think.

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        “Codec information” is in ROM or implemented in hardware directly. Even studio quality audio interfaces that are DSP comtrolled will need only relatively small amounts of RAM; relatively slow memory for variable space and slightly faster mem for buffering. Both in the megabyte range and far from the speed that GPUs or AI require.

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      Depends on if you have analog cabled headphones, like the Meze Empyrians or the Philips X2HR Fidelio, then they are analog, but wireless or even digital headphones with USB/Lightning has ram.

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      This is probably all like stand-alone Bluetooth speakers and such that have little processors in them. Analog hifi shit isn’t going be able to use AI for anything except maybe receivers or something. I guess there might be a use case for using it to balance to a room and set up EQ or something, but these guys don’t seem interested in doing anything that would require actual work to develop a real product.