• Zink@programming.dev
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    My Windows partition at work went unused for several months before I wiped it.

    At home it took about two weeks before I reclaimed that space!

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    17 hours ago

    I built a computer in 2012 with the idea of having 3 OSes to boot from: Windows 7, Mac OS 10.7 (hackintosh), and CentOS.

    I partition the drive into three main parts, and install each OS on one each. Except that I had to do it again, because Windows 7 lost its absolute shit that it wasn’t on the first partition. Just threw an absolute shit-fit that it didn’t come first.

    So I re-do the installations, let Windows be first in the partition order, Mac OS second, CentOS third. The next problem was that I couldn’t download any drivers on Windows, because it couldn’t recognize the absolutely bog-standard network controller on my motherboard. So I boot into Mac OS X, which (with a couple of quick kext edits) already recognized all of the hardware on the mobo despite none of it being Apple or Apple related, download the drivers for windows, throw them on a FAT partition I set up to exchange data between the OSes, and finally get Windows running in about 4x the time it took to get Mac OS running on the exact same built-for-windows hardware I’d cobbled together.

    And of course I fire up CentOS, and it was pretty much, “I got this” right off the bat.

    I’ve been using Windows and Mac OS since the late 80s, and linux since about 1999, and I still have never encountered a more fussy OS than Windows.

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    16 hours ago

    Maybe we should speak to them in a language they actually speak. In this case, I am thinking the proper language is class action lawsuit.

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      I run Win10 IOT in a virtualbox to run one app once a month for a few minutes, that I haven’t found a replacement for.

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      22 hours ago

      Realized I hadn’t booted Windows on my personal PC in 6 months and said yup time to nuke it all together

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        18 hours ago

        Recently booted Windows to install a BIOS update with a Windows only installer and realised it had been about a year since last boot. Think it may be time to reclaim that space.

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          Most mobos usually have a bios flash utility in the bios setup itself, so you don’t need to rely on the windows installer. You just need to stick the update on a USB stick (extract the binary file from the zip).

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            Sadly that’s only common for desktop PCs, with laptops it’s a lot less common. But many can be updated from within Linux nowadays

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              Hmm I wonder if you could boot into a recovery version of windows to run the bios updater in that case. Like a recovery partition that isn’t even on the main disk.

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      I’m in school. I 100% need windows for proctored tests. Institutions that offer online schooling are slowly building infrastructure around Microsoft 365 and underlying tech that depends on windows.

      I get it. I main Linux too but you 100% need windows in remote learning. So it’s dual boot.

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      There are two or three work functions that can only be done on Windows when working from home. So it gets its own Windows 10 VM with just enough resources to perform those functions, installed with a local account and ShutUp10 to remove all the automated “feature” updates. If something goes wrong, I can nuke it and lose nothing.

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        I use winboat so I can have Windows programs in a seamless window on Linux. Still a VM, but less annoying to use in comparison to a full RDP session (which is possible if needed)

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        Might be able to starve it further with Windows 10 Ameliorated. It’s got a fancy UI now, but under the hood it’s a bunch of Powershell scripts to disable a lot of the bullshit (or at least it used to be).

        Using IoT LTSC install media is good too, doesn’t include a lot of the BS to begin with.

      • BonkTheAnnoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Don’t use your phone computer for work. Even if you’re an independent consultant, S Corp or whatever. Just don’t.

        For privacy and legal reasons, and your own sanity, just get a separate computer and only ever use that for work.

        Most of the time you can write that off anyway.

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        21 hours ago

        the cat in the image is windows update taking over the linux boot partition: the box, instead of leaving it alone for the much more comfortable windows boot partition: the cat tree.

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        I hade i wipe my secure boot enrollment for Bazzite once. Had to reinstall the whole thing to fix it.

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        Until you update your EFI and have forgotten all about the fact that non-Windows EFI boot images need to be registered with the Secure Boot key store even if Secure Boot is off. And that the key store is wiped when updating the EFI.

        And then you spend an entire afternoon trying to find out why your Linux boot every isn’t even recognized by the EFI anymore. Fun.

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        It’s been about while so I don’t recall if I had them on separate drives or not but windows would delete the linux boot partition during updates.

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          Yeah, that regularly happens if both are on the same drive. I think windows should be in the front and Linux behind it to avoid it, but you never know

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            20 hours ago

            Well, it makes little difference in the end; Windows should keep its grubby fingers out of someone else’s partitions. Whether this be Linux, MacOS or - yes - another Windows installation.

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      If I didn’t have to use it a handful of times a year for work I’d have wiped my windows drive and extended my Linux storage. Alas.

      I feel for the folks who can’t afford a second drive to dual boot.

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        I have five machines, one headless, the other four on KVM, 2 Linux 2 windows. Mainly only use the one windows for work bs that I never want to touch my personal space. I spend most my time on my Linux machine and just use rustdesk though. Having three monitors helps because one is pretty much dedicated to rustdesk.

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      It’s on a separate hard drive for me, and I have it so I select which drive to continue booting from when I first turn the machine on.

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    If you do want windows do this…put windows on a sacrificial drive… Promise to yourself that there’s just garbage in there so it doesn’t matter… Install Linux on another drive. Have your computer start from the Linux drive thru grub. Set up grub to recognize the windows drive. No, no matter how hard that bitch ass OS tries to update your godly Linux install, it won’t find anything. Fuck you Microsoft! Knowledge is power. Now go out there and compute.

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      I’m going to call out rEFInd for dual booting, since it doesn’t require you to configure anything and finds and recognizes bootable partitions at boot time. Less stuff to mess up, less work when you want to add/remove an OS.

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        Yes! That’s the recommended way of doing it! Hammer it first or someone might bring that virus home and try to use it.

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    Everyone saying you need two harddrives needs to know: all you need are 2 efi partitions: one for windows one for linux… You can have them on the same drive. It’s nonstandard, but I have never found a machine where it doesn’t work.

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    Dual booting may be a bad idea. You should run MAS-activated Windows in a VM.