To put into perspective: South Korea declared Martial Law during the end of 2024 which was short lived as their citizens were awake, not asleep (since a similar thing occurred in 1980 that lasted until 1987) it only ceased when a new president was elected, so they know what their parents have been through back then not letting it slide in modern times which was met with stiff resistance & protest from Gen Z Koreans.
Their president was impeached right after he enacted it as he’s abusing his power via blocking legislators by using both law enforcement and the military averting them from entering their national assembly, including him ordering the arrest of both the judges and supreme court justices whilst illegally declaring martial law (all in which violate their constitution). People there protested against martial law.
With the Democrats being lame ducks, the Republicans being mindless yes-men without a spine, and SCOTUS being mostly bootlickers, I guess you’ll end up with martial law.
That’s not what “lame duck” means.
A lame duck is a politician who is currently in office but is not eligible for re-election due to term limits. A second-term president is the classic example. Being in power and yet guaranteed to soon not be alters the power dynamic and priorities of said politician.
Donald Trump is a lame duck; in his second of two terms.
I agree that the term “lame duck” is used differently in politics, nonetheless the Democrats are lame ducks in the common use of those words.
The only “common use of those words” is what the captain posted. I have never heard that term used in any context outside of someone that holds a position, political or otherwise, that will be gone soon, either from term limits, because they lost or didn’t run in the last election, or got fired/replaced/quit, but the new person isn’t in the position yet.
You used it wrong. You can learn from the person that responded to you or you can double down and try to invoke a little-to-never used definition, but everyone will know you just used it wrong.
Phrases can hold multiple meanings.
Like all countries where this has happened before, it all depends on which side the military chooses. The outcome will be decided by a couple of generals.
The US Army isn’t big enough to take over the whole country at once; they’d have to have the National Guard on board.
The governors of every state would have to mobilize their units.
Now, if there was an actual major calamity going on [think of an actual invasion from China] the governors would fall into line pretty quickly. If it was Donald Trump declaring martial law after losing an election the Dem governors would line up to oppose him.
You sure about that last bulletpoint?
You do understand that the whole ‘Both Sides Are The Same Thing’ helps the GOP?
They want progressive people to stay home.
Dem governors would line up to oppose him.
Do you have any reason other than your own expectations to believe this is true? Looking at their response to him so far I don’t think they would do shit. I don’t think I would have said that two years ago but their spinelessness up to this point is pretty shocking.
Walz hasn’t done much of anything about ICE invading Minnesota and Newsom types his Twitter posts like an idiot now. What else have any of them done?
walz is a pushover thats why he hasnt done anything
if minnesota still had jesse ventura as govenor hed have been personally kicking them out with his boot heel
Lots of pearl clutching and whining on twitter, then back to work in the morning. Probably.
Honestly, yeah. Lots of people in my town would probably be onboard and justify it. “This is a good thing because the radical left is crazy!”
I mean, you already have
SAICE thugs going around breaking the law with impunity … so, pretty much nothing would change?Another No Kings protest will show them!
The No Kings protests have been an amazing show of opposition to Trump and the Republican party. Are you mocking them?
At least use your fucking brain and call them rallies. They are not protests. Nearly at all…
Why would anyone mock state-sanctioned weekend protests?
They really seem to be affected by it. Trump may finally step down after seeing all those witty signs.
No Kings isn’t for Trump, he’s too stupid and self-delusional to understand anything. It’s for all the other MAGA leadership, who are quickly understanding that it is all falling apart at an increasing rate. Once you have major supporters openly condemning them, it’s over.
No Kings isn’t supposed to do anything but demonstrate opposition numbers, and since each one grows larger, that is making a HUGE psychological impact on MAGA. Many got on board MAGA because they thought it was the winning side, and they want to be winners. When they see that they are on the unpopular side, many will walk away from MAGA. NO Kings helps drive that home to these dipshits.
It also helps energize those at home, who think MAGA is in total control, and there’s nothing they can do. No Kings demonstrates to those people that they aren’t alone, there are millions of others fighting for them.
MAGA leadership, who are quickly understanding
There is MAGA leadership outside of Usa??
Tel Aviv?
What do you think those people should do instead?
checks what instance we’re on
No comment.
Strike. Protest during the weekday. Throw molotov cocktails. Revolt. Storm the capital. Anything at this point.
Scenario:
Me: throws molotov
White Americans: "See, these immigrants are violent! He’s probably a CCP member. Lets deport all the Chinese! "
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Chinese_sentiment_in_the_United_States Am I supposed to do things that would provoke more incidents to this wiki-page?)
I mean, first thing would to hide my identity and try not to be caught. Have other like minded inviduals. Do it when theres more people around to hide from authority. Idk. I dont have the answers but peaceful protests havent done anything. The admin just keeps getting worse and worse.
This is a great way to get thrown in prison and accomplish nothing. Building cohesive local mutual aid networks and progressively larger protests accomplishes way more as far as resistance to Trump
We’ll get thrown in prison sooner or later for being considered antifa. Too late for a peaceful approach.
On the assumption you’re American, where’s your molotov?
If you aren’t, you really don’t understand what you’re asking. Most people would have to drive hours or days to be anywhere worth rebelling, lose everything they care about in the process of just not showing up for work regardless of actions taken, and do it all alone because everyone else is under the same threat. All against the most powerful military in the world.
The US is big. Someone in LA coordinating with someone in NYC is culturally and geographically similar to someone in Barcelona coordinating with someone in Berlin. And they have safety nets.
Barcelona and Moscow are closer to each other than LA and NY, fyi
Otherwise, I totally agree with you.
What are you suggesting here? The no kings protests have shown how the opposition to this tyranny can be shown peacefully rather than through violence. Any publicity is good, its spreading the message in a peaceful manner and changing peoples mind to the regime without violence. Thats pretty good, really. Sure it’s not changing anything over night, but at least they’re building momentum and doing something rather than nothing at all.
Still hilarious they haven’t renamed it to no pedos
That’s actually a great idea lol. No Epstein class.
I wouldn’t be surprised if imposing martial law led to a series of events that culminated in a civil war.
Unless someone with opportunity eliminated Trump from office by one means or another immediately after he sent the order. This would probably be the best path to avoid having the country rip itself apart.
I have a feeling that an actual martial law declaration would be enough to motivate a general strike.
This actually happened when early nationalists tried to overthrow the Weimar Republic in interwar Germany. Some old generals and their men took over the capital and declared themselves in charge of the country. A general strike was declared, and the whole country shut down. The generals were then left “in charge” of a totally shut down society. Needless to say, the coup lasted a short enough time that it’s usually not even mentioned in world history lessons. This whole event pre-dated Hitler’s first beer hall putsch by like a decade or something, if memory serves.
Eliminating trump wouldn’t do shit. He’s just a figure head, the rest of his cabinet and the VP will carry on the grift.
There is a cult of personality around him that others cant seem to replicate though. I wouldn’t be surprised if that left some of his zealots politically rudderless. That being said someone who doesn’t talk like a dipshit might re-attract the more moderate Republicans even if all the decision making is consistent
they would need someone as charismatic as trump to continue the charade any longer and i dont think they have anyone even close
IIRC South Korea’s military wasn’t really on board with it in 2024, either. I have very little trust in the USA’s current troops when it comes to that …
Hegseth keeps firing generals who refuse to comply and he’ll continue to do so until he find ones that will.
Except they’re all so useless they just lost a war to a country with no airforce or navy.
I disagree with this, the US’s leadership lost this war, not the military itself. The military was dealt a shit hand by incompetent civilian leadership having no discernible goals and ignoring decades of intelligence and threat assessments.
The military should have insisted on clear goals and it should be all over the issue of threat assessment. The military failed here. Yes the orange moron caused it, but a competent military would not have engaged without proper plans and a full understanding of contingencies.
Every time Hegseth fires another top general, and replaces them with a loyalist Yes-man, he weakens them, and strengthens the potential revolutionary army.
If a Civil War pops off, we will have a LOT of experienced commanders to go up against theirs.
And we will also have Pete’s drunk group texts!
What would happen
States would leave the Usa. Many states. Probably all except New York and Florida (the two who have given him a home).
If you think New York would stick with President Pedophile, you haven’t been paying attention. New York State includes New York City, and New York City hated him long before he became president.
you haven’t been paying attention.
I just wasn’t serious. I think nobody can really know what would happen.
Sounds like they’d be trying to tred on a lot of people who dont like the idea of being tred on. Money meet mouth time I guess.
Are you talking about the “tread on me daddy” party? The party of “over my cold dead hands” re-elected president “take their guns first, due process later”. Don’t expect them to stand up for their “values”, because they don’t have anything past party power and hurting the outgroups.
These people have sufficiently demonstrated that they actually love being tred on, IMO.
We are talking about a different caliber of person.
Are people who explicitly use “Don’t tread on me” as a slogan not usually rightwingers?
Yes but you’re using too broad a brush. Not everyone falls into the box you’re thinking about. Those aren’t the type of people I’m talking about.
So what type of people are you talking about?
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