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Reason number 5,386 to delete your Reddit account and encourage your friends & loved ones to do the same.
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A’right, this is disgusting, but it’s really not Reddit’s fault if a Grand Jury requests evidence.
spoiler
___Especially because the Grand Jury hasn’t even requested anything yet, I guess?
Today is a good day to use Lemmy.
Fuck ICE
Once again, just in case no one heard, FUCK ICE
nice I like this… a lot
I can bearly say anthing on this platform. must be my home instance. You are so lucky you can cuss. Daddy won’t let me
I’ll say it for you then.
#FUCK ICE ✊
So, the rule is very old already, actually: You can’t criticize ICE on Reddit if you’re an American citizen, because of this. And you can’t criticize ICE, Israel, Trump and etc. on Reddit even if you’re are not the USA citizen - because of bans on platform.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Actual title:
A Secret Grand Jury Is Seeking the Identity of a Reddit User Who Criticized ICE
It’s completely unclear what illegal thing the user is supposed to have done, other than dislike ICE.
Good god the title is very misleading. The grand jury hearing isn’t until April 14. It’s still chilling that the administration will go to these lengths to apparently silence criticism, but I’m not convinced there is more to this story. Although the reddit user in question is enlisting a civil liberties group to represent him, I’m thinking he/she may not be a terrorist mastermind who is a danger to the American people.
Big daddy capo_Corpo government is handing out the span_kings as the beatings will continue until the moral improves. It is about fear! This is not the first time that yan_kkk_eee land has acted this way.
i heard its a “secret grand jury” whatever that means, probably chosen only jurors that would vote in thier favors, aka literally choosing biased jurors. since reddit is half or more as bots, it will be funny if they only found its a bot from another country. i have a hunch that reddit does not reveal thier bot activities, or how they are allowing them.
You must not remember the 944 Russian bot accounts from the 2016 election. Some of the accounts have been cleaned but reddit actually documented that bot activity pretty well.
ah pedonald trying to scare people. fuck him with a retractable baton.
That might bring him pleasure.
Dip him in acid.
Heh, which kind?
As a chemist, I recommend Hydrofloric acid
A friend of a friend died from spilling a small amount of HF onto himself.
concentrated HF is highly toxic and caustic, while diluted in water isnt that poisonous.
That calcium-loving one that eats your bones if you touch it?
I think you’re referring to hydrofluoric acid
I kinda wanna see the one that causes sensory blending and hallucinations.
And just fuck with him for…well how ever many days a dose like that would take to wear off.
Nah, give him shrooms and let the mushroom gods show him the weight of his own soul as it drags him beneath the rising tides of the abyss…
All of them
man i fuckin hate the us government. Do y’all really say shit like “pedonald” unironically though
do y’all say that shit and be like “heh yeah i got his ass”? do y’all say shit like “The Orange Menace” and think it’s the fuckin bomb dot com?
you old ass freaky mfs got that truth social energy going on. Y’all say some corn ball facebook auntie garbage and act like it’s tuff with two F’s
Can y’all act like normal human beings instead of this weird ass insulated secluded sector of the radicalized internet for a sec big dog like damn
slaughter conservatives and behead authority figures, stop this busted ass middle school atyle name calling though holy fuck
Who here is acting “tuff”? It seems more like it’s you than anyone else.
The masses are fucking morons and a threat to anyone trying to actually improve anything. Don’t hold your breath for them to abandon their dopamine dispensers.
I heard the heavier ones love it when you call them ICEburgs
Why is it important to make a fat joke about Nazis? Did you run out of things to make fun of them for being Nazis?
Seriously y’all, for all the people on this site who fancy themselves as “leftists” or “progressive,” y’all use eugenicist talking points fucking costantly. You gotta stop making fun of Nazis for shit that has nothing to do with them being Nazis. If your only way to make fun of these people is to target other groups, I’m not sure what you hate about them besides the aesthetics.
Because calling them Nazis doesn’t affect them - they’re proud of it. I don’t particularly care about being ACCURATE with those pieces of trash, and my attempts to do so would only be taken by them as a sign of weakness. It’s about getting to them psychologically and showing them I don’t respect them in a language they can understand. I get that the language is offensive to people who are not them as well, but it’s like a gun - it’s not just about the weapon, it’s about who you point it at. If it gets to Nazi bastards, I’m going to use it.
Oh awesome, could you explain how making fun of fat people constitutes psychological warfare against Nazis? It’s not like a gun, because a gun is a fucking inanimate object, and society and culture are not.
When you say that fatness is something that is akin to the same level of moral depravity as subscribing to genocidal politics, you are reproducing fascist constructions of the ideal human body and the relationship between physical deformity and social degradation. Liberals have used ageism, ableism, queerohobia and transphobia, racism, and yes, fatphobia to make fun of Nazis because most of them have no idea what is wrong about fascism besides the distastefulness of their tactics. It’s not about the language being “offensive,” it’s about anti-fascism.
You wanna be a fascist or not?
I also don’t really care about offending people, but claiming that they are conflating fatness with being a Nazi is ludicrous.
Them being fat isn’t worse than them being a Nazi, you braindead, victimhood-seeking pillouck. It is just offensive to say to them and makes them sad. Trying to police every word that people say is also highly fascist.
You wanna be a fascist or not?
You really are trying to twist what language means. We use words to be understood and you seem intent on mischaracterizing and misattributing the meaning of words when it suits you. Should we restrain from calling them pedophiles too? I mean surly there are some pedophiles out there who would be offended at being linking to Nazis. It BESMIRCHES the good name of pedophiles.
Please, good sir, tell me what insults I can hurl at the people MURDERING AND ABUSING PEOPLE that they actually care about? Shall I dig back a hundred years to find something no one else finds offensive? And they will?
This is a reminder to everyone. If you or someone you know is still on Reddit. Use an extension to bulk deleted everything before deleting the account. You’re friends and family are not safe posting on reddit.
I am no fan of reddit but in this case Reddit appears to have championed this users anonymity going so far as to actively draw the ire of the administration.
- Reddit refused to comply with the initial administrative subpoena
- the Federal government came back with this grand jury subpoena and warned Reddit not to disclose the existence of the subpoena or they’d consider it interference in federal law enforcement
- Reddit complied with this new legally binding subpoena, but did not comply with the demand to keep it a secret. In the contrary, they immediately alerted the user of the subpoena which allowed him time to immediately lawyer up.
You’re not wrong that you’re not safe posting on Reddit, but if this case is any indication you’re not any less safe posting in Reddit than any other site, including Lemmy.
You’re not wrong that you’re not safe posting on Reddit, but if this case is any indication you’re not any less safe posting in Reddit than any other site, including Lemmy.
You can choose the location (and thus legal jurisdiction) of your home instance, but yeah, in general, I think that people need to be aware that server operators on the Threadiverse are probably not going to fight legal battles on your behalf.
We had someone ask about turning over IP addresses to law enforcement a while back on lemmy.today. The lemmy.today server admin gave what I’d call probably a pretty accurate answer.
https://lemmy.today/post/7255213
How will Lemmy Today handle IP subpoenas?
Lemmy instances are run by volunteers who wants to see a social media network without big tech.
I dont think you can trust any of those volunteers, including this one, to not comply with law enforcement. Thats not why we are running instances. Its about providing a platform without tracking, ads and algorithms for talking to other people and having a good time.
Hope that makes sense.
Use a VPN if you have a reason to. :)
It linked to a similar question for lemmy.dbzer0.com:
How will dbzer0 handle IP subpoenas?
Don’t know man. I’m not making enough in donations to pay for the server costs, never mind hiring lawyers. I’ll deal with this when I have to 😅
There are platforms more-aimed at providing harder pseudonymity. I’d put Hyphanet fairly high on the list of “a pain in the ass to track a poster down due to technical barriers” list (though that comes with very real performance and latency and suchlike costs).
To answer for Quokk.au. If I had to, I’d delete the instance and all data before ever handing anything over. They can take me to court if need be.
If you’re subpoenaed and a request for discovery is not met because you destroyed evidence, that comes with severe penalties. In court, you’d have to prove that you didn’t intentionally destroy data. You’ll have to find an attorney that can protect you against a government or powerful corporation.
Depending on the country and jurisdiction, intentional spoliation of data will lead to harsh penalties, criminal charges, expensive financial restitution, and jail time. Would you want to serve multiple years in jail and pay tens of thousands (or much more) in fines just to protect the data on your server? Would you want criminal charges and job loss, and the incredible difficulty of finding employment again when you get out of jail? Permanent criminal charges on your record for the rest of your life?
If yes, you’re very, very brave. Most other server owners would just comply. They’re already struggling to pay their bills, including serving Lemmy. Must be expensive trying to get legal representation when they’re ordered to turn over data.
I run an instance filled with trans people and anarchists, I would risk a lot to protect them from the state.
gary web sh()t himself in the hed 2 times
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harder to make a international site comply though
you are not safe posting here either
That is what I said
We know. We exist out of spite.
Life is not safe. It’s pretty relatively safe, as compared to living under a lean-to in the woods with bears and disease carrying insects and such, and even that’s safer than people make it out to be. However, there are “dangerous things” out there, both in the woods and in the streets and in the organized crime / government. Are you more likely to die of a car crash, or a malicious action of some organized group, or a car crash arranged by some organized group? It’s really hard to be sure, but if the available information is anything close to accurate, you’re better off worrying about a car crash than a meteorite strike, or shark bite, or bad people targeting you.
Isn’t Reddit owned by China? WTF is Trump going to do?
Reddit is headquartered in San Francisco
Reddit is owned by Vanguard, Blackrock, JP Morgan, etc
You’d really think they could afford hiring some moderators.
From what I’ve been hearing that hasn’t been working anymore.
Can you do that for a banned account?
yeah just wait 10 years
If you wait long enough they’ll unban your account. I lost my 10 year old account a few months before the API debacle over referencing piracy in /r/movies and then inadvertently commenting there on an alt account, and just discovered that it was completely restored a few months ago.
Good to know, since I was shadow-banned for “circumventing a ban” even though my account wasn’t banned to begin with. (No, I didn’t have any alt accounts)
That’s exactly what mine was for. I think it was around 2 years later that it was restored.
Nope
The most absurd part of this is their inability to dox someone for a month. Give a handful of bored nerds any motivation and they’d have it figured out in a day or two.
Be grateful they are incompetent.
The Reddit hivemind is a bit like AI, now that I think about it.
They’ll give you a confident, reasonable sounding answer. Any accuracy will be completely accidental.
Well you see, most of reddit bots/comments are AI generated. it comes from 2 camps, 1 from propaganda, and the other (reddit targets with thier own AI moderation) the OF/ link /business droppers/ads that are warming up thier accoutns with random comments(in non-propaganda way) or posting it.
These days I’m pretty sure most of the Reddit hivemind is AI.
They’ve had difficulty convincing grand juries to indict in other sketchy cases. I have to wonder what super secret group of totally-not-ICE-officials this was approved by.
It hasn’t been approved yet - the title is misleading. The US has requested Reddit appear for a grand jury hearing by April 14.
need to scroll down this far to see this
probably a ALL-PRO ice jury.
Grand juries are usually formalities with a very low bar. There’s a phrase that you can indict a ham sandwich. Not getting a “true bill” is honestly an embarrassment that many prosecutors never see in their entire career.
I could have seen this get blocked here, but there are still many steps ahead, each will get harder to move forward with.
Fun fact: I just wrapped up a case as a juror (not a grand juror) this morning. We rendered a verdict of not guilty because there was plenty of reasonable doubt to be had.
