From discord, when I started aggressively mentioning how I use Linux regardless of current topic 🤣

  • ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    3 hours ago

    Two of those (x-fit and linux) are mostly good for the user whereas veganism is good for everyone but capitalists so, I would hope, they’d talk about being Vegan first

    • Ignotum@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 hours ago

      As a linux user who uses linux on my linux machine (which runs linux), I agree that mentioning that one uses linux is not as important as mentioning that non-linux thing you just said

    • WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world
      36·
      7 hours ago

      Pretty sure that suffering is consensual, so it’s fine. It’s like how vegans can drink human breast milk or eat people who want to be cannibalized.

      • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
        14·
        6 hours ago

        I would say that most vegans, even if they’ve never heard it, at least approximately follow the Vegan Society’s famous definition:

        Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.

        Striking the parts that seem irrelevant to this specific question:

        Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for […] any […] purpose […]

        Keep in mind that “animals” in that first part is widely treated as “humans and non-human animals”. So you would have to decide 1) to what extent cruelty was inflicted to create the distro, 2) to what extent people and non-human animals were exploited to create the distro, and 3) if there exist practicable alternatives that meaningfully reduce (1) and (2).

        • wabasso@lemmy.caEnglish
          2·
          5 hours ago

          You’ve got me thinking about how the distinction is what the incentive is. Still not black and white, but if you want to suffer because you have only personal enjoyment to gain and your needs are all met, that’s better than consenting to suffering to pay the bills.

  • kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    4·
    4 hours ago

    Well from a hardware perspective, pretty much every tech product is built on the back of horrifying amounts of labor exploitation.

    Also in some cases components will contain gelatin, which isn’t vegan.

    For software? Well I sacrifice and goat and feed it to the machine before every git commit I make, so that’s probably not vegan either.

  • Sunoc@sh.itjust.works
    16·
    7 hours ago

    I aways see the “100% libre” systems being the vegan version of Linux, ie Guix or Trisquel on a canoeboot machine!

  • kubica@fedia.io
    10·
    7 hours ago

    It should be obvious that it’s your choice if you want to run Linux on a steak or on a lettuce.