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        which I hate… especially the “shorts”…

        tween daughter has adhd, easily falls into tiktok brainrot hellholes. Has trouble with self-regulation and self-control… I still want her to have music to listen to and do things (some lofi to study/chill to, etc)… but now, Spotify is yet another vector for distraction that consumes her.

        People be like “parent’s should take responsibility for their kids”… I’m like “mf, I’m trying, but every app in the world is trying to be social media” And the parental controls they offer are shiiiiiiiit. Because it’s not in a companies best interest to provide parents with tools to limit features.

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    People will use every one of these horrendous messaging subapps but scoff at the idea of downloading signal or even whatsapp.

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      what alternative did you end up going with?

      I had a script to convert my main Spotify playlist (5000+ songs) to download from soulseek but…yeah that would take a VERY long time and I really didn’t feel like being a soulseek asshole going that route.

      If there was something out there where I can take my spotify playlist and just convert it and use it on another/better platform I’d switch right now.

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        I switched to Qobuz. They use https://soundiiz.com/ to migrate, I think it was free transfering to them?

        I think it reported a 90% success rate + a few that it picked, but got wrong. It mostly failed on my instrumental stuff, standard stuff was fine.

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          Another updoot for Qobuz. Very happy with it, and the migration process was even better for me than as you describe it. Also, I didn’t think I’d give a shit about it the higher-quality codecs but they’re actually amazing. Big fan, A+++, would Qobuz again.

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            I still don’t understand why apps these sizes need that many people in the first place, what do they do!?!

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              Half of them definitely just making PowerPoints and attending meetings. You’d probably end up with 5 devs actually doing something and a marketing/advertisement department, I guess

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        I’ve been a happy Tidal user for years fwiw. The app is great as is music availability and discovery. I went back to Spotify for a while because I was missing its discovery features like discover weekly, but Tidal has greatly improved since then, and now features a daily discovery playlist (10 tracks, which I greatly prefer to Spotify’s weekly 30), plus 8 custom mixes based on genres you listen to. Track radio is also solid.

        Also, it’s maybe the only subscription service that instead of creating new tiers, merged the two it had before into one, keeping the upper tier’s features at the lower one’s cost

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        I would gladly have you leech 5000 songs off me in Soulseek if it meant Spotify was losing a customer.

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        I used something called spotDL, it grabs your music from youtube. I also had to get several thousand tracks, but it still found almost all of them. Didnt find maybe 50 out all those.

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          +1 for Apple Music. I know, “boo Apple!” And all that, but it fits well within the Apple one subscription and they pay artists well. Sound quality is good, discovery is good, supported everywhere.

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          I’m a Linux–Android user and Apple Music is the closest I’ve found to Google Play Music’s library management (the best there ever was). So it’s what I use.

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      Same! It decided ‘fuck em all’ and just downloaded all my music locally. It took some time to find a decent music player, but ended up with Musicolet, it’s a fantastic local music player. The way I see it, I’ve paid for Spotify for years, so I don’t feel bad about downloading all the music I had on there. Any new music I want I’ll just straight up buy myself.

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    When you see things like this remember that you’re paying for this. Stuff like this is why the price has gone up again.

    They had a good thing near perfect but they kept adding useless features and bloating the app and price. I need to cancel this shit but my grandma loves it.

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      Once they brought on Podcasts and wouldn’t stop shoving Joe Rogan on every screen I absolutely cancelled. I never listened to a single podcast on there yet they were the overwhelming majority of my recommendations. I was also getting annoyed with the random pop-ups of ‘hey wanna try this band that sounds absolutely nothing like anything you’ve ever listened to on our platform before?’…nope! Didn’t need Audible either. The price just kept going up…like guys, I want a music app. That’s it. Nothing else.

      Uninstalled Spotify over a year(or 2 or 3?) ago…don’t really miss it.

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        I have to because my grandma spent so much effort learning how to use it and she loves it.

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      Spotify was never anywhere near perfect.

      Radio? More like exact same 50 track curated playlist on repeat.

      Want to listen to music? Here’s Joe Rogan. Again. Don’t skip him, or we’ll automatically subscribe you to his channel.

      Enjoying something a little outside your normal 20 tracks we constantly play you? Well let’s fix that… Back to the same tiny pool of content loser.

      Couldn’t help but notice you had some money left over this month. That’s good, because the price just went up again.

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        You are mentioning things that enshitified it. Radio used to good, I’ve discovered 1000s of new songs through radio and 1000s of non mainstream artists through discover weekly playlist. The price raising has always been a stain, at first it was so cheap I didnt mind the price going up but its gone to far now. Its so crap now though, barely a music streaming platform.

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        Don’t forget putting fake AI songs into playlists when they think people won’t notice. After all they already pay artists the least of all the streaming services, might as well try to avoid it all together.

        Nobody that likes music should be using Spotify.

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    How has nobody used to mention that this ALREADY used to be a feature they had before they killed it. I remember in high school me and the girl I was dating used to send eachother playlists. I didn’t even know spotify had killed the feature until I went looking for one of those playlists in my inbox that used to be there.

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      I picked up some mp3 players with Bluetooth for about $7 each on aliexpress. Just finished acquiring my entire Spotify liked list. In my house, we’re getting back on the correct timeline.

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          In total, less than an hour of my time. Maybe 6 hours to copy the playlists and download all of them, but I only had to copy/paste and hit go on the software. Honestly, if I knew it was this easy I’d have do we it years ago.

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        I gotta ask - why not just play the music on your phone?

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          It’s 6 years old and the battery isn’t removable. Plus I can leave the mp3 synced to the speakers all day and not have to worry about calls or leaving the house interrupting it.

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            Ah, I see. I was for some reason only assuming portable use. Hope it’s working well for you!

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        What did you use to acquire your Spotify music? They cleaned a lot of software that could do that a while ago.

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    I’ve been saying for years the thing Spotify needs are short vertical format video clips. The whole “music” thing is a fad.

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        There was a short time period, during which Spotify would automatically start playing reel-like demos of song releases with audio, when you open the app.

        Imagine following artists with explicit lyrics, and it starts blasting in the public, because you just wanted to show an album to your friends. Maybe I am wrong, but I think it also included artists that are popular in your area, which makes even worse, as a lot of people here listen drill music.

        Luckily, they reverted the stupid change.

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        Oh yeah I forgot about that because I disabled it 2 minutes after seeing it for the first time.

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    All I wanted was cd quality audio (which I’m willing to pay for)…

    You know you’ve screwed up when the lazy people (me) actually get off their butts to switch.

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      Or Snapchat, or Instagram, doesn’t matter. Remember memes like “Microsoft Office will now have Stories”?

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        My post was not supposed to be that TikTok specifically is bad.

        my point was every platform (that uses attention as money generator) would eventually be some kind of short videos which emulates pov of user (vertical interface instead of TV horizontal interface) that encourage “engagements”

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    Please let this be your sign to start ditching corporate platforms across the board. Enshitification will come for your pristine app experience eventually. Go spend your Spotify monthly bill on one album every month from bandcamp or something. Own your own media. Share it with friends. GET OFF CORPO AD PLATFORMS! I realize this is the fediverse, so people are already kind of on board, but I think music streaming is often given a pass, or sneaks by our focus when discussing these issues.

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      I’ve been telling people for years to buy 1-2 albums a month, and then after a couple years you have a sizable library. Spotify is renting.

      But spotify is easy and fast, and some people think they listen to way more music than they do. I wonder how many people are paying spotify $10/month to listen to the same 4 albums for years.

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        But spotify is easy and fast,

        So you mean it’s convenient. That’s a valid reason. Evil shit aside, that’s literally why music streaming exploded the way it did.

        Unfortunately, the evil shit is pushing me away. Why can’t we just have a regular music streaming service that doesn’t inevitably suffer from feature creep and enshittification? Why does everything have to constantly increase profits?

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          Why does everything have to constantly increase profits?

          I think that’s the nature of publicly traded for profit companies. The shareholders don’t care about the product. They just want their portfolio’s value to go up.

          The leadership doesn’t care much about the product. Not in the long term. They get paid a big salary, and the higher-ups have equity they want to go up in value. So long as they cash out before the product dies, they’re golden.

          The actual labor building the product might care. Some are just working for a paycheck. (I knew a guy who worked at spotify, actually. He didn’t personally care much about music. He was just a database guy). But the ones who do care don’t have any power.

          So most of the forces that would push the company towards being long term good don’t have power. The forces that want more profits, now, do.

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        There’s something to be said for curated “auto” playlists, both for background and discovering stuff.

        That being said, Pandora is waaaay better at this. So are free broadcasts/channels like Radio Paradise.

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          I don’t trust spotify not to fill those playlists with AI slop, now. I also personally prefer to go deeper on a band, rather than thoughtlessly drift through a bunch of stuff I’ll never hear again.

          I do like bandcamp’s “people who bought this also bought this” recommendations, though.

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            Spotify’s payment model also adds a ton of bias to their suggestions. Artists need to hit a threshold number of listens a month to get paid at all, so Spotify ends up just suggesting music from artists they are already paying, rather than letting other folks hit that threshold. It’s also why the “shuffle” feature never actually shuffles a whole playlist before starting to repeat songs. If you really pay attention the songs that get repeated by the shuffle algorithm are the ones from bigger artists to try and keep smaller groups from getting paid at all.