I once thought a service like YouTube would bypass the stupid censorship rules of even basic cable TV (which are looser than broadcast TV in the US). Oh how wrong I was.
Cable doesn’t have rules, other than each corporate entity’s own practices of what they’re willing to publish/broadcast. Part of it is appeasing advertisers, and some of it is them wanting to gain market share, but it’s all business reasons. And those same business reasons apply to websites and podcasts.
Tbf, “unalive” is only a thing because of TikTok, unless they’re pushing the same content to both platforms, when they have to go with the most restrictive version of their combined rules.
And even then most of the problem is keeping it monetized, not necessarily the platforms during it down directly.
But since videos are a career now, it’s a fairly effective ban on certain words.
TikTok is way way waaaay too picky imo. Personally I don’t want anything censored at all, for any reason.
Unless someone is going ham on a topic that’s triggers you into some PTSD situation, I don’t really think there’s a good argument for censorship to exist in any form at all.
If some idiot is using language you don’t like you just stop listening to them and realize that when you’re scrolling through an non-curated source of content, you will hear idiots saying stupid shit.
But the action taken on them shouldn’t be an effective gag, it should be just getting ignored. Once blocked and ignored enough, it’s basically a shadow ban. It wouldn’t be profitable for them to be offensive just for the sake of being offensive, but they shouldn’t be getting what basically amounts to fines just because they said someone "died"or got “killed”.
“Unalive” and others on tiktok aren’t even enforced. People believe that the algorithm will like it better if they do it but there are tons of very popular videos with cursing and “killed.” I think it’s the viewers swiping away (affecting the algorithm) and the creators voluntarily censoring themselves that created this.
Rather than hindering or censoring entire platforms because “kids might see something undesirable” (which common sense shows they’ll get around to find no matter what anyways), I think the kids and parents should have and maintain their own monitored or restricted internet somewhere else.
Instead, the majority of platforms get controlled and sanitized in the name of children while the issue is framed as an impossible problem to solve. It isn’t. Put your kids on the sanitized internet and let me have my swears or risqué topics please.
Besides, none of this ever ends up being about kids anyways. It’s all about control and data collection.
What is your solution? Because this was clearly borne from a place - not of being quirky - but of corporations actively censoring people who speak freely about whatever they decide.
Start at Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google, and TikTok if you want to throw deserving slaps
Sometimes I’ll follow a clear joke using some element of the discussion topic (e.g. “not un-slap” as a way to poke fun at the moronic euphemisms) with some serious talk about the real underlying problems but not always. This just wasn’t one of those times.
My default goal is to add a little levity. The soapbox doesn’t have to come out every time.
I once thought a service like YouTube would bypass the stupid censorship rules of even basic cable TV (which are looser than broadcast TV in the US). Oh how wrong I was.
Cable doesn’t have rules, other than each corporate entity’s own practices of what they’re willing to publish/broadcast. Part of it is appeasing advertisers, and some of it is them wanting to gain market share, but it’s all business reasons. And those same business reasons apply to websites and podcasts.
It has rules in the exact same way that YouTube does.
Tbf, “unalive” is only a thing because of TikTok, unless they’re pushing the same content to both platforms, when they have to go with the most restrictive version of their combined rules.
And even then most of the problem is keeping it monetized, not necessarily the platforms during it down directly.
But since videos are a career now, it’s a fairly effective ban on certain words.
TikTok is way way waaaay too picky imo. Personally I don’t want anything censored at all, for any reason.
Unless someone is going ham on a topic that’s triggers you into some PTSD situation, I don’t really think there’s a good argument for censorship to exist in any form at all.
If some idiot is using language you don’t like you just stop listening to them and realize that when you’re scrolling through an non-curated source of content, you will hear idiots saying stupid shit.
But the action taken on them shouldn’t be an effective gag, it should be just getting ignored. Once blocked and ignored enough, it’s basically a shadow ban. It wouldn’t be profitable for them to be offensive just for the sake of being offensive, but they shouldn’t be getting what basically amounts to fines just because they said someone "died"or got “killed”.
That kinda shit is bonkers.
“Unalive” and others on tiktok aren’t even enforced. People believe that the algorithm will like it better if they do it but there are tons of very popular videos with cursing and “killed.” I think it’s the viewers swiping away (affecting the algorithm) and the creators voluntarily censoring themselves that created this.
I’ve never been on TikTok, but I’ve heard creators that do both mention that doing so is because of TikTok rules.
Fuck censors.
You’re welcome to host such a platform. Won’t be easy to keep it running without funding though.
Thanks to capitalism.
Why would the absence of capitalism suddenly make it viable to host such a platform?
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I completely disagree with this line of thinking.
Rather than hindering or censoring entire platforms because “kids might see something undesirable” (which common sense shows they’ll get around to find no matter what anyways), I think the kids and parents should have and maintain their own monitored or restricted internet somewhere else.
Instead, the majority of platforms get controlled and sanitized in the name of children while the issue is framed as an impossible problem to solve. It isn’t. Put your kids on the sanitized internet and let me have my swears or risqué topics please.
Besides, none of this ever ends up being about kids anyways. It’s all about control and data collection.
The other day I was walking past a gaggle of middle schoolers and heard them swearing like sailors, one even called the other a fag.
They’re children, they’re going to say and do things they’re not supposed to do because they want to do the cool, bad, thing they’re not allowed to do
I didn’t see any of the tiktok censorship stopping that conversation
this was a double plus good comment. really made me reflect on how I can better serve big brother.
Makes me want to not un-slap the bullshit out of their mouths.
What is your solution? Because this was clearly borne from a place - not of being quirky - but of corporations actively censoring people who speak freely about whatever they decide.
Start at Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google, and TikTok if you want to throw deserving slaps
Don’t use these shitty apps? Seems pretty straightforward.
I don’t personally, but the point of my question which you may have missed was what should all the kids do?
Also not use these shitty apps. It’s very simple.
Sometimes I’ll follow a clear joke using some element of the discussion topic (e.g. “not un-slap” as a way to poke fun at the moronic euphemisms) with some serious talk about the real underlying problems but not always. This just wasn’t one of those times.
My default goal is to add a little levity. The soapbox doesn’t have to come out every time.
Oh. It was the punching down that didn’t feel “light,” so I figured you were serious. Carry on if you must
Thanks, I recognize that not everybody will be on the same page and that’s fine. I must and I will. See you around.