"Jesus and mental health
are for those who can help themselves.
What good is that when you live in hell
on earth?"
Barenaked Ladies - War on drugs
Studying all that is cheaper than therapy. Trust me, if I could afford the financial commitment I’d go again.
Aah yes, therapy, the instant cure-all for brain issues. How foolish of me to think that therapy was only talking through your problems and getting professional advice on how to cope better with the crushing reality that we’re all just wage slave servants of the 1%.
What a fool I was.
That’s okay, don’t feel too bad about it… but if you do I hear there’s a potion for that.
Lol everyone says therapy
Can therapy make the ICE Agents go away?
Can therapy change the fact that my original home country has a bunch of authoritarian “communist” thugs in government? The thugs that never wanted me to be born.
(apologies for the rant)
A key component of dialectal behavior therapy is focusing your sense of injustice in ways that allow you to enact the most change while coming to peace with the things you can’t. I started working on a sub about skills building but did get discouraged for a bit by low engagement. The wiki is pretty fully fleshed out though: !DIYMentalHealth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
You can alchemy your way into making Molotov cocktails, that would help
i bet alchemy could though. let’s recreate paracelsus
Being an alchemist grants you immortality
That’s why Isaac Newton is still alive
Hey, nice, I’ve been falling asleep to some of this guy’s videos lately.
The just go to therapy shit is more or less the same as “have you tried yoga”. I have gone to therapy but therapy isn’t some magic cure-all nor will it help with material conditions being shit. I have autism and probably C-PTSD, therapy ain’t gonna help anymore for the simple fact that my problems are materiall in nature since Society is shit and it’s hard for me to even find a job let alone one that won’t push me towards a meltdown.
Therapy never fixes you problems. It’s there to provide you with the tools to handle and navigate those problems and teach you how to use them.
You can’t control the world or society or how other people will feel or react. All you can do is controle your actions and reactions. That’s a simple fact of life for everyone. I’m not saying your situation isn’t different from most other peoples but that won’t angry that the world isn’t better won’t help you in any way. Figuring out ways to navigate that shitty world on the other hand will.
I have a job and it’s a struggle to find reasons to give any fucks anymore. I used to be paid “enough” and according to inflation calculators, I’m making nearly the exact same amount (in terms of buying power) as I did in 2013; but my expenses are definitely higher.
This isn’t a competition but if I can’t progress in my career at a pace that even rivals inflation, then what the fuck am I even supposed to do?
My responsibilities have increased, but my buying power is ludicrously the same. It’s infuriating.
You’re not alone.
“Just get therapy? Why don’t I strap on my therapy helmet, and squeeze down into a therapy cannon, AND FIRE OFF INTO THERAPYLAND, WHERE THERAPISTS GROW ON THERAPIES?!!!”
Theraptrees? In this climate?
Me: “Can I get a referral to a therapist?”
GP: “Uh huh… so, I’m going to need you to take a drug test.”
The medical system has us so whipped.
I just reached out to a therapist office. Referrals? Insane if you actually needed to do that.
Every medical treatment has to go through my GP, or else my insurance won’t pay for it. If I had the money, I could just pay a therapist on my own, and then pay out of pocket for any meds the prescribe.
Not to mention it’s (usually) expensive
Got it for free, it comes down to “you don’t look depressed”.
No shit, I thought you would help!
So they told her I look depressed. I was not depressed, just literaly grieving.
Got some perspective on things, was still on my own.
Guess what: you need an actual neurologist to help treat your brain disorder, not someone to tell you the obvious.
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Oh wow, I’ve been meaning to look up the comment I wrote last time this was posted. And here’s a great opportunity to do so! Time to make yet another attempt…
All right, either:
- try to decide what kind of therapist is needed (difficult)
- figure out what kind of therapy/therapists are covered by insurance (time-consuming and stressful, sometimes impossible)
- provide a bunch of private information (time-consuming, difficult, and stressful)
- look through a list of relevant therapists nearby (usually easy)
- try to identify one that you might relate to or at least be able to deal with (very difficult, sometimes impossible)
- call them up one at a time to see if they’re really accepting new patients (time-consuming and stressful)
- try to find a regular time that works in your schedule for the new therapist and for other obligations (difficult)
- again provide a bunch of private information (time-consuming, difficult, and stressful)
- go meet with the therapist. try to get along with them because if you don’t it’s your fault and you have to start all over (difficulty varies, sometimes impossible)
- do all this while dealing with whatever problem you need therapy for (difficulty varies, sometimes impossible)
Or:
- access Paracelsus: https://paracelsus-project.org/ (easy)
- translate: https://translate.google.com/ (easy)
- distill potions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrrbGRIOhCw (easy)
I know the wording’s a meme, but the hell with whoever made the original post.
Seriously. I looked into it awhile back for something. My insurance’s page was complete garbage. Their provider network is completely useless. Every therapist on there either isn’t actually taking new patients, doesn’t accept the insurance, or links to a dead site.
You should be able to sue your insurance company $100 for every ghost listing they have in their provider networks.
Ironically you need therapy in order to go to therapy. If someone has issues with overthinking, anxiety about interacting with people, stress/anger issues, depression that makes them unmotivated of course it’s going to be hard to go to a stranger they’re expected to be their most vulnerable with.
I met my partner 18 years ago. She started therapy regularly after our first five years together. She started to see some patterns in her behaviour, especially toward me, that she wanted to work on. Since then, she has decided she wants to become a therapist.
On the other hand, my journey started when I tried to access counselling 25 years ago. My GP tried to put me on an antidepressant immediately. I said no. Since meeting my partner and her starting her therapeutic journey, she has tried for a long time to get me into seeing a therapist. It took almost 15 years, but I started about a month ago.
Now, this first therapist has not been mind-blowing in any way. No breakthroughs, no revelations. Really, I don’t think we’re vibing. But, still, being able to say aloud some of the things that I hide from everyone else is, in and of itself, therapeutic.
The list, above, were my stumbling blocks, too. They still are. Add to the list that I’m an underemployed, visible minority, a father-of-two in a high-stress career, and that I refuse to “adjust [blithely] to a profoundly sick society.” I’d rather continue to feel my isolation and my detachment than walk into Walmart whistling and smiling at my good fortune.
All this to say (TL;DR) therapy comes from your own commitment to honest self-examination. Guided, surely, but at least attempted. It won’t be found in a pill, potion, or portent. I hope to find a therapist who can challenge me to do better.
I have a completely unrelated question but is the US the only developed country where without health insurance you get no medical care at all?
No, you just get a bill that some European governments couldn’t afford.
We can get medical care without insurance, but it’s rock bottom. People go to the ER when their kid is mildly ill because the ER has to see them.
We’re about to lose our Obamacare insurance because the Republicans fucked us over. I get one doctor appointment next week, won’t get any follow up care.
BTW, I’m unemployed but my wife works for the largest credit union on the planet, a “great job” people say around here. She gets no insurance, PTO, nada. Been there over a year, excelling on every metric, still not a “full” employee.
Same in Iran.
They just went before the USA in the list.
(/Jk, they might even have some sort of free “healthcare” in Iran).
The healthcare is getting stoned, isn’t it?
Now I can’t speak for a availability or how you can get insurance to pay for it in the US. I mean you don’t even have to have insurance in the US?
But most of your other points are BS my guy…
- Not that important and a doctor might have suggestions here already
- The only required stuff should be the same you need to provide any doctor
- In Europe insurance or doctors will help with that as well
- You might need to try a few different therapists but they are professionals. They can deal with you
- Therapy doesn’t necessarily require a regular appointment schedule
- 🙄
- Same as 5.
- Again, sucks if you are in the US. In Europe you can take sick leave and go to a facility for multiple weeks at a time if you have severe issues.
If you financially or through some other means cannot do it, sure. But most of the western world has decent access. So go to therapy. Women manage somehow.
Women don’t manage somehow. Iirc, about 11% of women go to therapy, while 7% of men do. The difference is almost negligible.
Also, from my personal experience, going to therapy has been quite unhelpful. I shopped around and met with quite a few therapists. One was genuinely insane. The rest seemed to do basically nothing and have no real suggestions of improving my mental health issues. For the most part, it seemed like they were phoning it in, and didn’t think my problems were real problems.
“Go to therapy” is thrown around like some trump card. But the reality is, going to therapy is very hit or miss, and in my case, pretty much entirely miss. I get more out of going for a walk in the woods. And if trees are reliably doing a better job at your vocation than you are, then I think your field is probably bullshit.
Therapy ? You mean that do-nothing treatment, where you get your money stolen & get prescribed drugs that do the ACTUAL job ??
Also you get asked questions to which the answers are mostly “I don’t know” & in a lot of cases just get gaslit. Good one people.
While undeniably psychology as a field is got some gigantic lingering issues, like one of the worse reproducibility crisis for published papers and the fact they somehow accept outdated ideas (like Freudian psychoanalysis) as just a valid “parallel approach” which does indeed make patients at risk of just throwing money away, there are evidence based therapy options and, for several disorders, therapy is actually the gold standard for treatment.
Some have no pharmacological option, and some have drugs that seem to only work reliably when accompanied by therapy. This doesn’t change the valid criticism the field deserves, but we can’t write off therapy as a whole.
The problem is that “therapy” is so incredibly broad and most unprotected.
My cat definitely isn’t a psychiatrist, but as of 12 seconds ago she is a fully licensed therapist. Kindly fork over 8000 bucks in exchange for her bumping her forehead against your shin.
There are multiple different kinds of therapy. CBT didn’t work for me. Reflective listening did. Please don’t write off all therapy because one kind did nothing for you.
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i needed both. i needed someone to talk to about the fucked up shit i needed to talk about, and i also needed the pills. now i don’t need the pills anymore (or at least, I’m tricking myself and my doctor into thinking i don’t need them anymore) and probably don’t need to talk about the shit anymore too.
“Let’s see, 500 grams quicksilver, 225 grams mercury, 20 grams ground cinnabar, and 40 grams fresh mashed castor beans. This depression potion better work!”
(Mercury is difficult to vomit out in large quantities because it’s quite heavy. No backsies on this potion)
Quicksilver is the same as mercury though
And cinnabar is a historically common source of mercury. I considered azoth as ingredient 3, but figured cinnabar wouldn’t be as confusing. A whole lot of “azoth” in modern media
Can’t have enough mercury.
Well it’s definitely gonna work, kill the depression with pure insanity from all the mercury.
People in these memes always talking about therapy as if one simply goes there and like it works in the first place
Not sure if it’s very different in the US, but at least in Europe a lot more women use to opportunity to go to therapy compared to men. I.e. there is space if you look for it.
And for your second point, psychology is a science. Not without flaw, just like any other science. But it certainly works, especially if the patient puts in the work.
Where I live in Finland, getting therapy is a monumental and usually expensive effort, to the point where most of its apparent benefits likely stem from survivorship bias because to actually get all the way to therapy you cannot have debilitating depression in the first place.
Glad we already implying that the patients just aren’t therapying hard enough.
Well, did it work?
Please sir, source of this?
Aye, it’s Potion Craft.
Ooh, that game that I recognise so well and wanted to play but can’t remember the name of!
Potion craft
studying Paraclesus, translating 1600s alchemical texts and distilling potions is the therapy.
Right? One of the first things anyone will tell you, therapist or no, is to have a fun hobby. I doubt the guy on the channel is merely doing it for the views/money.
Yeah, he loves this stuff, decent content usually.
