• Wolf@lemmy.today
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      I haven’t used a web browser made by Microsoft in 20 years, since I leaned how to create a web page. I saw how Microsoft was trying to take over the web by leveraging their monopoly to enforce their non-standards compliant crap.

      I even took an A- over an A+ on that project because I refused to code a version of the site that would work better under IE. I just put a disclaimer at the bottom of the page saying that it was 100% standards compliant and if anyone experienced an issue viewing the page they should consider a upgrading their web browser.

      I understand the Edge is supposed to be better than IE and more standards compliant or whatever, but given their history coupled with their anti-privacy practices, it makes any browser made by Microsoft a non starter for me.

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    Get ready for:

    clicks hyperlink

    Entire page is scraped and sent to copilot LLM to be processed. This causes a 1.5 second delay

    Then after you get passed the cookies popup and promo popup, the whole page shifts and gets injected with copilot summarizations right as you were about to click on something else.

    Work forces me to use edge, this’ll be fun

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      Then after you get passed the cookies popup and promo popup, the whole page shifts and gets injected with copilot summarizations right as you were about to click on something else.

      you forgot ads. It’s going to get injected with ads

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        Yeah, same.

        It’s not terrible, but it feels like it’s slowly becoming worse as they add new garbage. And especially if they start forcing a bunch of AI shit I’m out.

        But I think a lot of people brush it off outright without really using it. Or, because it’s Lemmy, anything that’s not linux = bad.

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      Actually Edge prior to this was a fine browser. Like a lightweight chrome. It was actually just good enough to not really make you want to install a new browser unless it was your daily driver personal PC.

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      Windows -> MS copilotOS
      Subscription-> MS copilot 365
      Chatbot -> MS copilot chat
      Office apps mished to one -> MS copilot work 365
      Vs code -> Copilot Code
      Visual Studio -> copilot studio
      Azure -> MS Copilot Azure cloud
      EntraID -> copilot Access
      ActiveDirectory -> copilot Business manager
      Visio -> copilot processes
      Github -> copilot repo management (CoRaMa)
      Intune -> ms copilot manage
      Planner -> copilot task management plan
      Teams -> copilot communication manager
      Linkedin -> ms management ads copilot

      🧐 wonky enough?

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    “Seriuosly unpopular” and the base for that claim is a reddit post with 300 upvotes. Don’t get me wrong, fuck microslop and edge, but this title could not be more sensationalistic.

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    Ironfox, Cromite, Librewolf, Ungoogled Chromium, Orion, so many much better options nowadays.

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    If it gets too bad, I suppose everyone still forced to use SlopilotOS for whatever reason will have to use Powershell to download Firefox. That is, until the SlopilotShell rebrand comes along.

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      Until they introduce Copilot in Powershell so that when you try do D/L another browser, it will chime in and explain you that you should first give a serious try to EdgePilot because it’s so much better and you won’t be disappointed! Here: I D/L its premium version instead of FF as you were trying to do, and I give you one month for free! \o/.

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      Microsoft 365 Copilot Edge Pro Express Home Edition with Teams for Friends and Family 2027.

      People will still use it once to download another browser.

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            Use curl.exe otherwise you might invoke the default powershell alias curl which has different syntax (just learned of this here somewhere some time ago in a meme)

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            I have a USB-bootable thumbdrive with Ubuntu 24 on it. Two home systems down, two to go.

            My chief concern is that this wave of enshitifiation will eventually make it to Microsoft’s security support. Historically, at least recently, the weekly updates and response to critical vulnerabilities and virus scanning have been pretty good. But now that they’re attacking their own flagship products - Office and Windows itself - I think it’s only a matter of time before they fumble Windows security in a big way.

            I’ll also predict that Non-pro Windows will eventually be “free” (as in beer), but will be useless without a live internet connection and cloud services. So now really is the time to switch. IMO, all the money points in that direction.

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              My chief concern is that this wave of enshitifiation will eventually make it to Microsoft’s security support.

              That and their general quality control. It’s already been happening. Their updates and new products have been having some serious issues with a lot more frequency over the last year. At least that’s the strong impression I have. Oh, here’s an article also calling this out: https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/08/microsoft_lacks_quality_control/ - apparently they may have started going down this path over a decade ago, but it seems to have accelerated since they started using Gen AI.

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                  Dude, that was a GOOD read. It’s been a growing problem, before AI and entirely due to the infinite growth forced on companies by shareholder value.

                  I code, usually for utility or personal projects. I’m surprised how many software devs have shit code. It’s not that their code doesn’t work, they wouldn’t have a job without it. No, it works well for now, until it needs to be maintained or updated, usually after the sloppy author is gone, and then it’s a shit show. Suddenly all the corners the last guy cut need to be added in somehow, with the whole thing expanded to scope, and the code becomes unworkable, at worst, requiring a complete rewrite, or at best turns into spaghetti code that leads to the shit we have in our aging early adopters.

                  My biggest fear, and one that is not talked about in the article, is that we won’t have any asbestos removers in the future. Generative AI is being fed it’s own excrement and that’s being leveraged as working code to new coders. When this really becomes a liability we won’t have many left that can fix or figure out the fix cause it will have obfuscated all the usable info.

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            Out of curiosity, why does everyone always go for Ubuntu in posts like this? I’ve always hated that distro; all my machines run Fedora instead. IMO Fedora with KDE is way better than Ubuntu with Gnome in terms of usability for people switching over from Windows, but maybe I’m just biased since I’m already super familiar with Linux

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              I’m also a Fedora KDE user and I agree with you. The only real gripe I have with it is that if you don’t know about the full version of RPM Fusion, you’ll get frustrated that certain things are missing or don’t work right, and the GUI button to enable third-party repos after installation isn’t enough. I personally just skip that button and enable the full version following the directions on their site and then use Discover to enable Flathub.

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              I run Zorin OS 18 on my desktop. I just commented Ubuntu since more people would understand the comments.

              Also, for Surface tablets, I believe Ubuntu is the best option for touchscreen support.

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              It took me way more than a decade of using Ubuntu before I got to a point of preferring Fedora, in spite of frequent distro hopping in periods when I was bored.

              I think Fedora has gotten better in the last few years, but for me it also feels a bit more cold and unwelcoming maybe? Dunno, but I was always happy with Ubuntu until some really obscure dependencies got into conflict and I had to change things up. Canonical might not be the absolute best, but neither are Red Hat.

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              The link is no longer working. I just needed a direct link to make the point that’s it. Recent versions have buttons to download with script.

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            Ubuntu doesn’t respect the spirit of free open-source software. They keep jamming stuff into their distro to increase their control. There are plenty of alternatives. (E.g. Debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora or Mint for general-purpose distros.)

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            I refuse to use or recommend American distros.

            I can confirm Debian 13 works great for newbies.

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        It’ll just be called Microsoft Copilot.

        None of you are in an abusive relationship with the cruel mistress that is Windows and her accursed family and it shows.

        Personally I’m excited for when they rerelease regedit as Windows Copilot, MFS as (Co)Pilot, and Purble Place as Copilot Kids Demo.

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    M$ has done more to convince people that AI is bullshit than anyone else and I just want to thank them for their hard work.