I think it’s really easy for Lemmy users to assume that the general population has the same technological interest and literacy that they do.
The Windows 11 users they are talking about are from an /r/pcmasterrace thread.
The vast, vast majority of consumers don’t give a shit. They don’t care enough to even think about whether their computer is actually secure, they don’t care that they don’t own their OS, and they don’t care that AI is being shoved in.
Their computer is a magic box to them, and they don’t care to know more.
I’ll believe it when I see it
Why? Why even wanna see it? Just walk away, go to Linux, and find that suddenly you own your computer again
Because the vast majority of users don’t care enough to change what they’re used to and learn something new. They just don’t care that they don’t own their computer.
Don’t underestimate human inertia.
Hell, if MS ever really starts pushing VDI, I guarantee there will be mass adoption.
I also wonder how much of this was spurred by Linux even beginning to come to the mainstream mind and how simple most distros are to just install and run (Bazzite, CachyOS, Linux Mint).
You’ve always had Linux go around tech circles, forums, enthusiasts, etc. but big YouTube channels out of that circle are talking about it and hardware manufacturers are distributing it in place of Windows in the case of the Steam Deck, and it’s just building more and more momentum.
I think it’s easy to take for granted how (relatively) mainstream Linux is getting, but if you think today how many people talk about *BSD, that was Linux not even 10 years ago.
Microsoft’s promises to fix the OS and stop pushing AI
Never heard such a promise.
Microsoft my sweet summer child, it’s not just the ai. It’s the Spyware wrapped in a Windows shell. Call me when I can install without needing an MS account.
planning on cutting back some AI features where they don’t make sense.
Lol, that’s basically saying they’ll remove AI from the entire system, 🤣
But here is the thing: There were already a million reasons to avoid Microsoft even before their lost weekend with this AI fever dream.
Remove the Microslop and those older reasons remain.
Windows 11 feels like Microsoft is actively punishing me for being foolish enough to keep using their products. Adding some janky AI bullshit machine to this garbage fire feels now they’re just taking the piss.
No joke, one of the last straws for me was their stupid copilot popup on the active cell in Excel. Hated that garbage. Also their refusal to let me just use the file explorer to save my files. Maybe I’m an old fogey, but every new addition felt like a step backwards. I have now switched to Linux and am having a decent time (not for everyone tho and I totes understand if others don’t want to make the switch).
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In this update this month they prioritized the app store over local results. I tried to type powershell (work computer) on the start menu, and now it offers me the app store link BEFORE my installed powershell. Yeah I’m sure they’re going to change course.
They also did something to the store that makes our endpoint management software think it’s a virus.
[Win+x, i ], my brother in Gates! But yeah, I share your cynicism of their priorities.
Too little to late… I already left and fell in love with Linux
My games work, most are better than on Windows. Microsop has noting to offer but ads and malicious bloatware.
Same here, only 9 years ago. On the not so bright side, every few months I go in a distro hopping frenzy for a day or 2 but it’s fine, since any distro installed takes me at most 15 minutes.
Welcome! Isn’t it a breath of fresh air to use an OS that isn’t trying to turn your computer into an advertising and upselling platform? It has its issues, but it’s a huge relief to escape the constant inundation from Microsoft.
(Obligatory: I use arch BTW)
Welcome to the club buddy! we’ve been waiting for you!
Same here. Got fed up after every damned update to subscribe to this, want to setup backup to cloud, setup office. Switched to Linux and now not a single subscription popup in sight. It’s been bliss. Spent the weekend with the misses sorting out 30 years of photos and getting to know exif editor 🫣
[edit] exif not exit editor.
Exactly
even being cynical towards microsoft at this point looks to me like sheepish adoration. If you have any hope that microsoft might start doing better you are naive.
Pissed that I had to reinstall Windows because Linux’s usability with my Valve Index isn’t quite where it needs to be. Was quite happy on Fedora before I attempted to run VR stuff again.
Windows 11 felt like a downgrade before all the AI bs. Microsoft values me more as an advertising opportunity than a customer.
I had avoided it until late last year when I had to reinstall a friend’s borked install after it had somehow managed to shred its registry hives.
Holy shit. That installer is an embarrassment. First it couldn’t get past the first reboot until I found out that you can set it to use what looks like the Windows 7 installer for the first steps. Then I had to deal with a dog slow installer that needs half a dozen reboots for some unfathomable reason. Then an endless cavalcade of sales prompts, including one for an Office subscription where they try to hide the price from you. All to end in, well, Windows 11.
I simultaneously installed Fedora Kinoite on his old laptop. I don’t think the Fedora installer is one of the better ones but it was so much easier and faster to set up the machine that it was almost comical.
Seeing both systems side by side really drives home just how clunky Windows is. And how Microsoft installers are barely better than they were 15 years ago, but now they have ads.
I read “reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11” as “finding a more subtle way to shove that botulistic sausage down their customers throats”.
botulistic sausage
Epic new band name
Yeah, exactly, they never said they are removing any AI. Just will be slapping some paint on it.
i’ll never see it because i’m never using windows again
I stopped seeing all the copilot ai crap after I removed it from my windows 11 computer. Not sure what versions of windows people on here are running but I’m glad it’s not on my PC! It is unfortunate that windows needs to be debloated if you buy home version instead of enterprise (a mistake I made), if they keep making users need to tweak stuff they’ll be better off on linux soon! Windows was supposed to be the idiot proof for office drones but it appears those days are gone.
Not sure what versions of windows people on here are running
No version
Same!
I’m currently building my business to be platform agnostic.
For the most part I’m using open source for everything that can be.
Bow that I think of it, the only non-open source stuff I use are zoom, outlook (need it for shared inboxes), and my payment processor. I doubt I will move on from these platforms as their value is really good. Zoom is the only one I may transition away from from as costs grow.
