- cross-posted to:
- games@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- games@lemmy.world
Discord Alternatives
- Stoat;
- Matrix;
- Rocket.Chat;
- Zulip;
- Discourse.
Teen-by-default settings to roll out globally for all Discord users, enhancing age-appropriate protections while maintaining privacy, community, and meaningful connection on the platform
Discord is announcing enhanced teen safety features rolling out globally that reinforce its long-standing commitment to creating a safer and more inclusive experience for users over the age of 13. As part of this update, all new and existing users worldwide will have a teen-appropriate experience by default, with updated communication settings, restricted access to age-gated spaces, and content filtering that preserves the privacy and meaningful connections that define Discord.
Beginning with a phased global rollout to new and existing users in early March, users may be required to engage in an age-verification process to change certain settings or access sensitive content. This includes age-restricted channels, servers, or commands and select message requests.
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I love how photo-based age verification scanning is the worst of both worlds - it destroys your anonymity, but not in a way that makes it easier to run a community where you can ban a person by their digital ID since they can just make a new one with the same face since facial recognition is too crude for that.
Yeah I’m only just barely lurking on discord I have no problem leaving.
Not if I read it correctly: not uploading anything (and fuck you Discord) means I won’t get invited to view adult content, right? That’s it? And we’ll all be teens forever?
Pfft. Whatever.
“Content filtering” is just corporate jargon for subjective censorship, dynamically and discriminately restricting access to knowledge. I abhor all censorship.
I refuse to verify my age with a face scan or government ID for an online account/profile… It’s too easy to imagine how fucked up that will go.
The more I delete profiles to platforms with
unwanteddisturbing features the more recluse I become. It must look to acquaintances that I don’t care to speak but what can I say? I cannot imagine convincing computer-literate friends to switch to something as they will have the same problem.Do I need to retire my gaming server before I’m locked out of controlling it?
I hope that discourages open source projects and similar communities from using discord as forum / user support.
Yep, hate when I want to follow some project and they link you to X, Reddit and Discord lol
Need support? Contract us on @SupportThatNeverReplies on Shitter (the nazi-everything app)!
I can say as a member of the PCSX2 project that I understand why we and other FOSS emulators use it as official support – but nevertheless wish that we didn’t. We’ve discussed practicalities before, and the project doesn’t stay there just from inertia or because of personal preference; there are major practical reasons to prefer it over a forum (which we have), a wiki (which we have), or Matrix.
I’d be willing to endure the pain points and to scale back support in order to be off of that shithole, but I also get that’s a fringe minority sentiment shared by only a couple others. All of us would be tech-literate enough to use a client like Signal or Element for intra-project discussion, but very few people would come to Matrix for support (nor would we probably want them to due to the much greater moderation burden per end user), and the chatroom model – to most of us – is much easier for support than a forum. The only reason I’m still begrudgingly on Discord is for PCSX2.
I share your hope, but I seriously doubt this will come even close to dislodging us. Smaller projects, perhaps.
Putting valuable help, trouble solving and FAQ stuff into a discord is … annoying. You cant find it again. So it will only help the original poster
Damn it. I did not come here for a reasonable and valid explanation.
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Begrudgingly puts away pitchfork
There are layers to this.
Persistent chat rooms are here to stay.
As a user? I dislike this. I am sure you do too.
As a developer who gives a shit about the users? The number of times I have had to spend sometimes upwards of a dozen back and forth emails trying to explain to someone that I am not lying to them and the answer they found on the forums are for a bug that was fixed 5 years ago… Let alone having to, politely, tell a greybeard to shut the fuck up because they keep telling people to search instead of ask for help…
Whereas a more ephemeral approach that actually encourages people to ask questions? Yes, it does cause long term issues when someone is trying to debug a project that has been on life support for years. But, by and large, just checking the current FAQ and then asking in a chatroom results in a better experience for the users, the devs, and the community managers trying to bridge the gap. And… you should really try to avoid being dependent on said EOL software. Not always possible but… yeah.
And that isn’t going to change. So they’ll either stick with discord or use something MUCH less stable… like Matrix.
This is bad.
Discord genuinely thinks they got the users by the balls… Thing is, people move platforms extremely easily. It happened to MSN Messenger, it happened to Skype, and it’ll happen to Discord too.
For those who are looking for something very similar, look at Stoat (formerly known as Revolt). Their URL is https://stoat.chat/.
One problem will be that there are way too goddamn many software projects that use Discord as a shitty replacement for a blog and documentation, and they’re gonna be a pain to move to proper content platforms.
I’m in like a hundred of those. Honestly, they’re not that useful. Burn it all down and start over.
Sometimes the only way thru is shitty. And those devs might have to learn the hard way not to overcentralize- or to not use a damn chat software for what is way more suited to forums.
I’ve been complaining about this for years. Hope we’re finally starting to see the end of it.
“Look, Discord requires me to upload a pic of my face or ID, to which i can’t legally agree to. Please provide another channel or i can’t contribute.”
That’ll work for individual users, but getting all that chat history out will be a problem for the owners once the users dry up.
And I’m sure Discord will do their best to make it impossible.
Serves them right for picking chat software in the first place, let alone one they don’t control.
Mass migration like that occurs (from my memory at least) when the newer alternative has much better functionality, performance, and ease of use compared to the status quo service and has a low barrier to entry (sign up is quick and straightforward). Do any of the decentralized Discord alternatives fit these criteria (honest question, not rhetorical)?
Well, Stoat has the same features as Discord, including many premium ones for free, the ability to write HTML/CSS for your own server, with the only thing missing being video feed. Otherwise, it functions the same while being much faster.
Also sign up is very quick, but right now they’re getting hugged to death.
They absolutely have their users by the balls and I guarantee most people will continue to use the app after this, unfortunately.
Yeah, my group of friends will be very resistant to moving away from discord. They’re all aware of the issues with it, but It’s too convenient of a platform. Personally, I will give up most of the comforts to not be under the thumb of a corporation, but I’m an outlier in my friend group with that perspective.
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I did. That’s my opinion, most people won’t care I care, but most people don’t.
Revolt (suppose stoat) had problems with noise cancellation and people complained to me the UI wasn’t intuitive.
Didn’t they just get busted for leaking their verification data that they totally weren’t keeping?
Guess I’m not using discord anymore lol
that’s a great excuse to finally delete my discord account
Yeah, same.
It’s about the only megacorp thing I actively use (beside Steam, tho purely for downloading games), but I won’t help normalise & support such bs (ofc I never bought Nitro bcs I’m not supporting bs monetisation).Sadly prob none of the small communities I chat with every day will migrate to Revolt/Stout, so I’ll just lose this part of my life/daily memes.
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Well FU Discord. Over my dead body
You know what doesn’t require full face scan? irc
/poke
irc
now there’s some letters I haven’t seen in quite some time.
Seriously, like, actually seriously, I want to believe that this time everyone will leave Discord, and not just a small group of weirdos like us who “care about privacy” and ended up on Lemmy.
I just deleted my account. So there’s one less.
The reality is, is that we’re going to be the only ones who care.
Everyone didn’t go from GMail to Proton or others. Everyone didn’t go from Reddit to Lemmy. Everyone didn’t go from Telegram to Signal. Everyone didn’t go from Twitter to Mastodon (Bluesky I guess works?)
This is going to be no different.
From my experience, the average joe will just do whatever is asked of them to continue using a service.
seconded. i’m so sick of it being the only live chat app people use like i tried matrix but the servers were kinda dead :/
