The picture in question for reference.

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    is he going through a list about antichrist? this is literally one of the things.

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    As a kid, our Baptist church had two flags with golden eagles on the top in the pulpit alongside the cross.

    The actual religious tenants aren’t a part of your typical American church.

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    Considering that these people have literally worshipped a golden idol of the man, I think Christians have demonstrated they’re pretty much in favor of the guy.

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    i used to be pseudochristian and have been a christian church musician. currently weird pagan. i don’t know if that’s christian enough, but here is my two cents:

    he already crossed those whole “have no other gods before me, don’t take my name in vain” sins off the list with the golden krasnov statues. so like, if that wasn’t enough. i seem to recall a verse in christian scripture that says that even “god’s chosen people”, whatever that means, would be deceived, and gestures broadly

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        I was in a non trinitarian cult that most of Christianity does not consider to be Christian, but they themselves use the name of Christ and read the Bible. I would prefer not to open that can of worms here because like, cults gonna cult and this is not the only cult I have been in (I currently worship the pagan god of convergent evolution and blasphemy, which I made up because it sounded fun)

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    As a Christian, I can’t say I’m appalled given the source. I have never aligned with MAGA and even had my eyes opened during the Tea Party movement that the conservative party was now purely a tool to make billionaires richer. I know it was like that before, but I admit I was in denial 20 years ago.

    This quote is from a “Christian” Trump supporter.

    “I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” she said of Mr. Trump. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.” link

    I believe that Trump’s followers are not affected by this at all. I think that their pocketbooks are the only thing that’s shaking them enough to wake up a little.

    I think he’s not “being their retribution” and instead just making his billionaire friends rich. He’s not hurting the people that his voters want to see hurt and it’s making them wonder why he’s there in the first place. Affecting their pocketbook touches on him hurting “me” and not who 'I" think he should be hurting.

    The current MAGA “Christians” are like the Pharisees of Jesus’ time. So focused on the law while trying to feel holier than others that they would condemn the savior for healing on the wrong day instead of recognizing the miracle of the healing. They ignore all of Jesus’ teachings and focus on condemning the sins of others. They have no concept that they will be judged on only their actions and not compared to those they’ve labeled as less than them.

    Edit: Reading this whole verse is very important, but this is the part I’d like to highlight especially.

    2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 NRSVUE

    [3] Let no one deceive you in any way, for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first and the lawless one is revealed, the one destined for destruction. [4] He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, declaring himself to be God.

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      The current MAGA “Christians” are like the Pharisees of Jesus’ time. So focused on the law while trying to feel holier than others that they would condemn the savior for healing on the wrong day instead of recognizing the miracle of the healing

      Well said. I often say we’re more interested in being proven right then doing actual good. The Pharisees embody that attitude.

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      He is not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.

      Does she mean the pedophiles or the minorities.

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    The same way I feel about Nebuchadnezzar saying he was the greatest and most accomplished (Daniel 4:28-30). The same way I feel about Herod Agrippa I accepting adoration intended for God (Acts 12:21-23). Jesus said lots of people would say they were the Christ (Matthew 24:4,5). It’s not surprising, it is shameful, and the Creator of all things will resolve it in their own time and way.

    My only worry is that I try to live my life by the instruction and guidance I find from the Creator. For me a lot of that is in the Bible. It’s a personal decision, and a personal devotion. I don’t expect anyone else to abide by these understandings, and I work really hard not to judge others for their personal decisions. This takes work because it’s not how I was raised, but it is what I’ve learned from the Bible (Matthew 7:1).

    The only moral decisions I need concern myself with are my own. I didn’t always succeed in that endeavor. It’s a work in progress.

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      Pope Leo is weak on crime

      Technically, Vatican City has the highest crime rate in the world, fluctuating between 1 and 1.5 crimes per capita. But this is mostly pickpocketing committed by foreigners against other foreigners. Vaticans themselves mostly commit financial crimes and religious crimes. Obviously the solution here is to build a big, beautiful wall along the border and make Italy pay for it, to keep out all those foreign criminals.

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    When the MAGA Messiah was in exile during the Biden years, they hoped he’d come back, but didn’t fully believe it, so they pivoted to making him a religious icon, something the mainstream media mostly ignored.

    Traitor General Michael Flynn operated a travelling roadshow of speakers, called the Re-Awaken America Tour (wouldn’t that make it Woke?), a rotating slate of conservative and evangelical speakers. The constant thread through all of it was Trump’s divinity.

    All of the MAGA All-Stars spoke at one time or another, including Trump himself, but Lara Trump, Eric’s wife, was a regular. In her speech, Lara claimed that she was in regular, DIRECT contact with God, and he TOLD her that he had personally appointed Trump to be his chosen emissary on Earth, to lead America into its Christian future. Trump never paid much attention to Lara before, but he was so pleased with her efforts on the tour, that he made her chairman of the RNC.

    Then he stole the presidency again, and the Prophet talk cooled down for a while. Now that things are heating up for him again, the religious talk is ramping up again. Some will back off if they think he’s doing God’s work. You don’t want interrupt God.

    When he’s finally out, expect them to make hard pivot to religion this time. It will partially to discourage prosection - “You can’t prosecute a man of God!” - but mostly it will be about money.

    A politician has a lot of regulations to deal with to collect money, but a religion has no rules. You can take as much money as you want, from any source in the world. There are literally no restrictions. Even better, there are no taxes, and no reporting of your revenues to anybody. It’s the perfect cover for a money launderer, which is Trump’s primary occupation.

    When he is out, and struggling to stave off prosecution from every direction, expect him to start screaming for the Christians to save him from legal martyrdom by atheist Liberals! And also expect that many of them will buy it.

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    Catholic here.

    Frankly, I’m horrified. Not just at Trump’s aping of religious imagery, but also at how many former friends of mine still don’t see him for the evil that he really represents.

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    I’m not american nor evangelical (I’m a European lutheran), but I mainly find it stupid. Not even insulting: just plainly stupid.

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    Are you asking Christians - followers of the teachings of Christ, or Christians - those who claim the name? The teachings of Christ call for individuals to be humble, peaceful, loving, accepting, selfless, love their enemies, forgiving, non-judgmental, and joyful. As someone who tries to follow Jesus’ teachings, I feel sorry for him. He seems to be a very troubled man.

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    You can pretty much tell how earnest a version of christianity is right now by how active they are in protests. And im talking since last year not because of religious blasphemy. The ones that recognize the prosperity doctorine and such as an affront to their faith.