• BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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    I don’t feel lost in a crowd of shitposters. I post something on c/poetry, ten people upvote and I’m like hey ten people read this, that’s cool. It feels real where Reddit does not often.

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      Exactly this. Everyone has enough space to have their voice heard here. There aren’t too many threads I read where i get bored before I read everyone’s comments.

      I post every day since I know people will see it and it won’t immediately get buried. I get to know the names of people that regularly comment on my posts. Just seems more personal.

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      Afaik upvote count on Reddit isn’t even real anymore. It is still somehow rooted on the real count but their algorithm tampers with the count in undisclosed ways.

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        That’s right, the votes are fuzzed. I left Reddit after I made a post about a Nazi, and Reddit banned me for harassing Nazis. Reddit is evidently ok with Nazis.

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          Capitalist platforms are okay with anything until it’s no longer good for business. Fascism, and by extension, Nazism, is generally good for business.

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      I’m curious, do you use this on mobile or are you talking about a desktop experience?

      Personally I find more ads on something like Sync on mobile than I did on Reddit which I can block, but I am now forced to use the Reddit desktop site.

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        Yeu, sync has ads because the developers of sync put ads into it.
        Vanilla lemmy and jerboa certainly dont.
        I can imagine some instance admins considering forking lemmy and putting in ads. At the moment, most instances are run as a hobby (for free) or by contributions (ie donations from members).
        The development of lemmy was funded by a VC-type thing for a while, not sure if its still active. Otherwise, its also developed thanksnto contributions

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          Cheers.

          Sync didn’t use ro have ads (or maybe I was blocking them successfully) but now it does. So will try something else as fuck ads.

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    It’s both a cool concept and an actual functioning community. For now, it also feels a bit like the rubes haven’t found it.

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    I host my own and practically nobody can take it away from me. If I want to switch to Sublinks I can. I can swap the UI if I hate the default one. And it will never have ads or data collection.

    It’s a completely open platform. I can make my own algorithm. I can fork it. I can make a compatible server from scratch if I want to. It’s ours, it’s everyone’s.

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      It being a completely open platform means there will definitively be data collection. Some entity will scrape the fediverse for data. It’s free, open and unprotected.

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        Yeah but at least it is data that I explicitly decided to share publicly (including votes and subscriptions, because well, that’s how ActivityPub works).

        I meant more like, track your IP to give you local ads, analyze your browser cursor behaviour, visit frequency, how long I stay in a thread, etc. All things the official Reddit site and apps do (and probably a big factor as to why they shut down third party apps).

        To be fair self hosting Lemmy is doing the opposite of protecting my privacy since my real identity has to be tied to my domain and server providers and my credit card. But at least I’m somewhat in control of the exact information my server distributes on my behalf.

        And it’s that hidden metadata that’s super valuable because it’s much more detailed.

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    I think one of the major benefits Lemmy has over Reddit is the intentional lack of user karma. I think, on balance, that entire dynamic was more harmful than helpful in the long run. Allowing voting on posts - but not aggregating votes across all comments and posts - still allows community sentiment to be expressed towards comments and conversations, but at the same time prevents the sort of popularity contest bullshit that became so prevalent on Reddit after its nascent years.

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      Agreed. Karma was fun when Reddit began because it was truly useless internet points, but quickly fell off as soon as people got too serious about it. Buying/selling accounts with high karma, rules about only posting when you have a karma threshold, and of course the endgame now of buying stock if you have high enough karma. It’s just easier to throw away the whole concept here.

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        I never understood that… Why did people want karma points? Was it anything more than having ‘liked’ posts? There’s no real value. It’s like when my BIL used to give all the kids brownie points for getting salsa or reading a book.

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          If you gamify something people with addiction and addiction-adjacent problems will inevitably interact with it in the gamified way. This was the first state of the karma system harming the site.

          Then in the second stage once karma started getting more “serious” (preventing users from posting/commenting and being used as an “authenticity” check- what led to farmed and sold accounts) which led to a further breakdown of the karma system.

          The underlying issue is despite being an absolutely useless measure in reality- the site itself ascribed value to them and caused people with (what we’d probably refer to as bad) economic incentives to act on that behavior then rationally acted.

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    I guess the best way that I’d word it is, Lemmy (and the Fediverse at whole) is run by people - not a for-profit company.

    Also, having decent mobile apps again is very nice.

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    It’s a small community, which is rare on the internet these days.

    Its noncommercial, which is almost completely unheard of on the internet these days.

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    Yea, as some people have said, the fediverse and the threadiverse feel much more organic.

    Also, no tracking by shady companies is a big selling point

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    It’s not owned by a corporation and no single entity has full control over it.