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we seem to be popular with reddit users that were banned from reddit, which on average seems to translate to less than wholesome behavior - so maybe lemmy’s whole reddit-alternative branding works against us that way.
maybe developing a distinct UI so it’s not just a reddit clone, and directing features in a way that is appealing more to particular communities or people we wish to attract would be a good idea, rather than trying to directly replace reddit as a whole?
for example, attracting academics by supporting built-in LaTeX syntax rather than requiring a browser extension
“If you can’t say something nice…”
Shouldn’t be regulated, but that’s my advice for improving discourse and awareness.
Let’s talk about politics a whole hell of a lot less. Yes, things are awful and insane, but there is good stuff to discuss.
Generously start using CWs (Content warnings) as folks used to do in the early days of Fediverse.
Join/make communities that crack down hard on negativity
It would be cool if people stopped thinking the only ideologies are their ideology and fascism
There are ideologies that are bad that arent far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist
Yeah, I agree 100% but this also goes for the left. The tankies on some Lemmy instances are so vocal that it makes me appriciate the normal left more
You and the person you’re replying to are saying the same thing / agreeing
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Try not to fall into the trap of groupthink. The “reddit hive mind” was one of the worst things about our predecessor, and it seems to have followed us here.
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Understand that humans are not, and never will be, perfect. Endless purity tests do not accomplish anything other than turning away newcomers.
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For the love of God, pick up a hobby. My feed on any given day is 99.8% US politics and activism. I’m not saying that these things aren’t important, but it gets exhausting when it’s the only thing people want to discuss.
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There’s two subreddits I really miss: AskScience and AskHistorians. I was a regular and flaired contributor to AskScience, but its super helpful to generate a response when there’s a good question. It would feel weird opining on a random science topic that I come up with. And I loved the well sourced AskHistorians posts. When I do see a c/AskHistorian post on Lemmy the responses are very low effort
Yup, that sub has high standard. You basically have to write in Chicago style. (academic standard for writing in history) I wanted to contribute one time but didn’t want to spend hours writing.
My thought process:
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Post wholesome content. You need to be providing what you want to see, first and foremost. Provocative content is easy engagement, but wholesome stuff is both a little harder to find and to get people to interact with.
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Support other people doing what you like. See a post you like with no or low comments? Leave a comment to show that person other people want more. Likes are nice and all, but I personally post things I’m interested in and want to discuss. If I get likes, but nobody is talking with me, I get bored and feel like posting less.
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Clarify when you post or comment. If you’re sharing an opinion, make that clear. If you’re interested in a subject but understand you aren’t an expert, make sure you’re not coming off as one. If you’re bringing facts, support them with quotes and citations and be sure to credit others where it’s due.
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Respect constructive discussions. If people are rude, feel free to ignore them. No one wants to see 2 stubborn randos arguing in a thread though. If people give counterpoints or ask questions of your opinion, return the politeness given or steer it back to positive interior you feel it isn’t.
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Discipline is required if I can’t stick to my principles that I’ve outlined. If I think what I’m going to post is going to rule people up or if I think I’m saying too much about something I’m not very informed on, am I better off hitting cancel than post?
You are the most wholesome user i see around here, I love your posts lol =D
If anyone’s fit answering this question, it’s you
I appreciate that. It does take effort. It’s not like I’m an especially positive or happy person, but for building community here, I feel I need to put special attention into what I say and how I say it.
Bingo.
Each of us doing these things is the key.
That’s what I’m talking about!
It’s a few comments more positive in here already. 😜
You’ve never needed everyone for something, that’s unrealistic. A village doesn’t require the exact same behavior from all people to function smoothly, and any such bottleneck would create weaknesses anyway. You just need that to be the prevailing culture.
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For replying: Give others the benefit of the doubt. If you’re not sure, ask clarifying questions instead of assuming things and attacking first.
I see too many people fall for this basic thing.
Quit artificially upvoting US politics?
I’ll go for the technical side: having a distributed accounts manager so you only need one account to use every aspect of the Fediverse.
I thought that was part of the package when I made a lemmy account. Man was I disappointed.
Could this be an XY problem? Maybe instead of having several accounts and a way to log in everywhere easily, the problem is lacking interoperability? It’s hard to follow lemmy from mastodon, for example, but what if that was easy? Then you wouldn’t need both a lemmy account and a mastodon account, one would be enough to use different aspects of the fediverse.
Yes and no. Mastodon and Lemmy and Pixelfed and Peertube and FunkWhale and… have different uses but can be mixed. It would be a dream to have all in the same place so you can have a tab to upload images, another for videos, another for news, another for microblogging, another for DM (Matrix? XMPP?), another for short videos (Loops), … Just like FB has in some way.
It would be neat if different front-ends catered to different types of users who wanted different aspects, but that there was an underlying compatibility that also worked better. If I understand it correctly, mastodon has implemented activitypub in a way where each post doesnt hold a reference to the entire thread hierarchy (as lemmy has), so it’s difficult for mastodon software to construct hierarchies of replies in the same way, or at least it’s more expensive to traverse. There’s some differences in how groups are interpreted, as a hash tag or as a community. I’d rather be able to use one account and have the option to view activities in different ways, but now the implementations differ. That’s the interoperability I mean that doesn’t defeat decentralization.
this sorta defeats the purpose of decentralization…
How do you mean? To me a network is decentralized if there isn’t one controlling company or organization. In the fediverse, I can set up my own instance of mastodon/lemmy/honk/whatever. The fact that I can use honk to follow people on mastodon and interact with them in a smooth way is interoperability to me. I don’t need both a honk account and a mastodon account. This is a good thing imho. I can choose which software to run, or which home server to join, and still interact with people using different servers.
I’ve been doing my best to approach discussions with empathy lately (I’m not naturally good at it). The people interested in mudslinging get bored I don’t rise to it. People not interested in mudslinging but expected it get drawn into a conversation instead
I hear you, your conclusion is valid given your axioms. We agree on these points. But, have you considered someone with different axioms would come to a different conclusion. Neither of us are irrational, incorrect, or invalid. We’re mostly the same, just differ on a few key points.
Does wonders
Can confirm. The trolls get really bord when you don’t flip a lid. Also, if you just ask questions that challenge them to think a little more, the tend to ghost too.
Hmm, maybe some more diversity? Right now it seems to be mostly hypernerds who use fediverse services. When was “Ask Lemmy” about web development questions… you know
