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    Please observe rule 3 point 3:

    No porn, no politics, no trolling or ragebaiting.

    It goes both ways. The situation is still developing, whatever information you have might become obsolete an hour from now. If you need to air your feelings, this isn’t the right place for it. It’s also worth keeping in mind that the interaction that led to this controversy was nothing more than an already opinionated post and a reply from a Framework employee who has no say in who gets sponsored. Even the person who made the original post decided to “let it rest”.

    Be intelligent, do not be led into a smear campaign on somebody’s leash.

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      It’s also worth keeping in mind that the interaction that led to this controversy was nothing more than an already opinionated post and a reply from a Framework employee who has no say in who gets sponsored.

      The employee in question is Nirav Patel… the CEO

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        Posting what distros you use for what purposes as CEO is also shit opsec. Cherry on top of the shit Sunday that is this CEO. The board can find someone better.

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    Framework is a small company. In all likelihood they just did a poor job of vetting the people they supported. That is a much more reasonable explanation than “Framework consciously support Nazis and agree with their politics”.

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      By the way, community reaction like this is a great way to kill any incentive companies have to sponsor open source.

      If CHUDs start piling on Framework for something that turns out to be a nothing-burger I’m gonna buy another Framework laptop just to offset the damage.

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    Giving money to open source projects on which you rely on for your business is good practice. While I’ve just now heard about DHH and his political views, I think it is important that the overall mission is to make Linux (and open source software) a mainstream alternative to proprietary solutions. As long as this is not hurting the mission I am personally fine with some unusual partnerships. The alternative is a world where Windows and macOS rule the world.

    Additionally open source has always been about stepping up, so contributing or throwing money the other way are always an option. I personally donate to many projects I use. I mostly feel that my political views align with them.

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      DHH would have enough money, he doesnt needs it. Omarchy ist just some dotfiles + marketing

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    Overblown. You’d think they sold weapons to nazi, they sent a couple of laptops to open source developers which turned out to be assholes. People probably give more money to nazi when shopping and paying taxes

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      Yeah, but will you miss the opportunity of virtue signaling on the fediverse? Do you have an idea of how many upvotes that would bring you? /s

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      This is whataboutism. In short, worse things happening elsewhere do not invalidate the concerns here. Enabling fascists in this burning global society of ours is dangerous

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    Funding a non political project when you disagree with the politics of the owners isn’t evil. I donate to the lemmy devs from time to time

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    TIL Omarchy exists, is a dogshit arch spin and Framework is for some reason giving the sweaty loser running it and that rails cunt money because… Skidiots? I don’t get it, sponsor something that isn’t dog shit.

    This sours my trust in their ability to discern basic facts about vendors. Disappointing.

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      Omarchy is just opinionated Arch…
      …by a guy whose opinions include

      • Google Contacts, Messages and Photos, ChatGPT web app, Zoom, X, WhatsApp, Discord and RetroArch should be preinstalled but not Steam
      • screensavers with agressive OMARCHY theming should be enabled by defaut
      • People who criticize ICE should be deported
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      Only just found out about Omarchy the other day and it’s just a Hyperland config with a bunch of Ai shit pre-installed…

      Why are people even talking about it?

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        That’s… that’s what a distribution is. A base OS with bundled, preconfigured user applications.

        Take a gander at the git repo: https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy

        It does as much as most desktop distributions. More in some areas. It has merits regardless of your politics. I know I’ll be borrowing some of the scripts.

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          No. It does not have merits. You go ahead steal some vibe scripts to install some dog shit I’m good.

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      Please donate to billionaires, DHH needs a free framework laptop to be able to code in his private jet.

      Don’t forget to offset your jet fuel by using an efficient TWM.

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        He’s much closer to broke than a billionaire. 100 million dollars is just 1/10th of a billion and he probably doesn’t even have that, thankfully

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      With all due respect, I think you profoundly misunderstand the nature of my concern here.

      This is not a “I do not like this distribution” kind of argument.

      This is a “the people you are sending my money to want me and my friends dead or deported” kind of argument.

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        But you know… It’s TOTALLY politics to not want your money going to people who want you dead, so RULE 3 GUYS RULE THREEEEEEEEEEEEE

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        Look, to live together we have to learn to compromise.

        Here’s a list of your friends, cross the ones you like the least.

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          “OK guys. We gotta live together. As a compromise, how about we only deport half of your family?”

          Oh who are we kidding. These guys don’t compromise.

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      I, as an arch user, honestly approve of this one. Well played, fuck you and see ya next week!

      (the f u is /j ofc)

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      Because it’s a competently-made, new distribution with interesting features. Not everything you don’t understand is a fucking conspiracy.

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        Did I hit a nerve or something? Not every “competently made distribution” gets pushed to the top of reddit and twitter to get funding from Cloudflare. Why did this one?

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          It was also features in popular Podcasts like syntax.fm and changelog.com I hear them a lot and especially Changelog featured DHH often, so I had a positive opinion of that name until I really read his blog and what he is.

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    I know it’s not intended, but this meme is low-key saying you support framework (you just can’t afford it)…

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        I don’t think so, it’s saying they already hated them for making something they thought it was good unaffordable to those that could benefit most from it.

        I can support the idea behind a company while not caring at all about them.

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      Framework has endorsed a Linux distribution by a developer with controversial social views.

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        I hate phrasing like that. He wants to be able to murder certain kinds of people he doesn’t like

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          He does?

          I read the first link in the thread that examines his blog post about London. While I don’t agree with his politics he wouldn’t be unusual amongst a significant minority of the population who vote for the likes of Reform. That seems to be enough for some to draw the conclusion he’s a Nazi he wants to arbitrarily murder people.

          This automatic jump to accusing anyone who you disagree with a Nazi just devalues the term.

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            Nah I don’t deal with that apologist crap. The endgame is always going to be murder or slavery if you’re not white enough for them. If you let them pull any of their shit they’ll murder you in the end and laugh that you were stupid enough to let them. Zero tolerance.

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          I hate phrasing like that. I want to be able to kill people who want to kill people he doesn’t like.

          The problem with him is the right wing hate.

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        I believe it’s necessary to clarify þat Framework is giving material support to two projects which are headed by controversial personages - not just endorsements.

        It’s a long þread.