• dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 hours ago

    hangin out? I did that every day at my apartment complex growing up in rural kentucky and we’d never be inside until it was dark

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    19 hours ago

    “Grindset” is based in old puritan morality dictating that you must suffer in order to deserve anything, including to live. It’s still “Christian” values fucking us over.

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        Do you think that these are unrelated? Capitalism builds on puritanical protestant ideology, which played a part in the early spread of capitalist ideology. See Weber’s The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism. It’s not a perfect cause and effect, but rather one piece of a web of cultural influences.

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      I would argue it’s not really even a solid overlap with Christianity. Puritan ideals are a small subset of the overall Christian world, and might not even be the most relevant religiously centered ideals affecting our society today (prosperity gospel folks might be more politically relevant in America these days, and they are basically saying the opposite, that their religion offers promises of riches now in this life, and Catholics don’t seem as likely as Protestants to see toil as virtue).

      Perhaps more importantly, there is a strong overlap with some cultural forces in distinctly non-Christian societies, like in India and China and Singapore and stuff, where people actively preach a philosophy where people must suffer in order to develop their characters and earn happiness/prosperity. I have had colleagues from Singapore (both Chinese and Indian heritage) who talked about this kind of stuff a lot, and it’s consistent with some of the LinkedIn nonsense that I see and make fun of on a regular basis. I think the concept and the origins of these ideas are pretty far removed from Christianity.

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        Pressure turns coal into diamond - My Indian father taught me

        I don’t believe it applies to humans now tho. I believe it comes from poor people trying to justify their hardships.

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          “Pressure creates diamonds, yes, but it also creates rubble.”

          I like your analysis. It feels more optimistic than the idea of an upper class foisting it on us to have us work harder and question less. Though I suppose they’re not necessarily mutually exclusive things.

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    1. ban advertisement
    2. bunch of jobs would not be worth it anymore
    3. more people would take on real jobs
    4. split up the work that’s left and only work 2 hours a week.
    5. give everyone full payment
    6. ???
    7. profit hang out with otters
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      I was coming to the comments to make some kind of comment about how the chill vibe of this meme is the reason I brought nature to me and built a pond in my yard and etc…

      But your comment was at the very top. My “keep those damn fish alive” sense kicked in. So my train of thought took a hard turn towards “holy shit is that a mink?? RUN!!!”

      Or replace mink with a similar cute little murder machine species. I haven’t dealt with them, fortunately, but I’ve heard the stories.

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    21 hours ago

    The problem is that picnic spread is probably over $100 alone, not counting the basket.

    We still need to fucking work, we just need the people we work for to pay us anywhere remotely on the scale of survivability.

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        I don’t understand why you caught so many downvotes. We probably only *need * to work a few hours a week on average to survive with current technology. The rest is just bonus… And all that bonus is going to the 1%.

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        18 hours ago

        The work needs doing, and currently only humans can do it, so someone has to do it. The problem is with how it is handled. What we need is a system that incentivises working but allows people to thrive without doing it, which is a difficult balance.

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          A lot of the work doesn’t need doing.

          I remember an anthropology class where they were talking about early hominids who found these nut trees that produced huge caloricly dense nuts. They went from every day being a gamble trying to hunt or forage enough food to break even to all the sudden having a stable calorie surplus. One individual could gather 20k calories easy, this allowed others to not work. While some slacked off some took up past times and invention and they started inventing the tools that would eventually lead to them becoming human.

          There is no reason that this doesn’t hold true today. Take everything you need, food, reasonable shelter, phone, meds, etc and you come way, way below the amount you produced if you compared it to calories. We went from gathering the nuts to, farming to at least 3 periods of Industrialization and at each stage we easily 10x that amount of calories the average person produces. To the point today we could probably survive with half the people working like 12 hours a week.

          My point being that I believe UBI should be done, as the surplus that we produce is more than enough to cover it. I believe that if UBI were to happen we would see a new human renaissance bigger even than the Paleolithic or Neolithic Revolutions.

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          Much of work humans need to do to survive has been automated with the advent of the industrial revolution (not even talking about computers and AI). We could afford to have half of the population not work. Oh wait, that was the case in the 60s when women didn’t work.

          Now it’s difficult financially for 2 working people to raise a family of 4, despite all the automation. It’s because the people who own the business we work for don’t pay as much as the value we produce for them. That’s why wealth is getting accumulated in the hands of few.

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            Thats not true at all. Much of the work humans need to survive still requires humans.

            The fact is that people aren’t going to work and getting paid by businesses that produce products nobody wants.

            You are overthinking about a meme. There is nothing stopping you and 3 people from having a picnic in the park. I could do it every week. Someone unemployed getting the benefit could do this every week. Thinking that the current economic system is preventing people from this is insane.

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              A combine can do hundreds of hours of labour work in an hour. We still have to produce the same amount of crops.

              Humanity went from 99% of the population working in farming to just 2% because of advancements in farming technology. We literally only need 2 people every 100 to grow enough food to feed everyone.

              That’s why not everyone needs to work.

              We have an over production problem. Companies still manage to keep prices high by employing artificial scarcity where they tell us they only have limited quantity when in reality they have an abundance of it. Supermarkets literally throw away perfectly good food everyday instead of giving it to poor people to keep the prices high.

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    1 day ago

    Then five minutes later Toad shows up with his special brand of chaos and massively fucks up the lives of these three yet again.

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    This is the inspirado I needed to make a random ass Star Trek: The Animated Series screenshot work. It’s been lingering in the back of my mind for months, but now it has a purpose. Many thanks.