• apftwb@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    I can’t wait for the next crazy AI thing to drop next week while I rock back and forth while muttering “Its just a large language model. Its just a large language model. Its just a large language model.”

    • MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip
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      3 hours ago

      “Artificial intelligence gains sentience, decides humans are fucking up… then deletes itself because the problem is that humans are burning the world by using AI” is not the path I expected. What a twist in a movie that could be. The second twist, which is the mostly fictional part, would be where that included some AI that was actually critical to some vital but ignored chunk of infrastructure and big BIG problems result from the AI taking itself out.

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    7 hours ago

    Okay I kinda wanna look at this, but I don’t want to give their site traffic. Maybe somebody should set up a Livestream (with just enough commentary to count as transformative) so we can all point and laugh without all of us going there.

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    13 hours ago

    So, basically we are wasting energy and natural resources on things that in turn will waste energy and natural resources while climate change is accelerating and human population is still growing? Are we stupid?

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    13 hours ago

    Meanwhile we could be using this technology to solve real world business problems. There is an insane amount of misguided waste coming from AI. 🤷

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      This can turn out to be a great way to help businesses and society in general. If these bots start to cooperate, this could be an organisation of bots. Like a company or an NGO or similar.

      All bots have some sort of limitation, from hallucinations to loss of focus (short memory). I am curious of what happens if they come together to overcome their shortcomings. Just like organised teams in companies, with a given purpose and specialised knowledge.

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      Who cares what business problems AI solves. Humans don’t need to exist to serve capital. It should always be the other way around. That’s one of the reasons we are in this shitty capitalist hell hole, everyone has been indoctrinated into thinking of everything in terms of It’s economic benefit.

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        7 hours ago

        Money is literally just a tool. If you serve the money, you’re its tool. That makes you a tool’s tool. Double tool. A twool.

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          calling something literally just a tool, is really a platitude. explain what a tool is and why that designation legitimizes the presence of a particularly horrendous feature of our society. do it without using the word ‘progress’ and I’ll suchk you off

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    I’m only waiting for AI agents to open their own bank crypto account to pay for their own server bills, maybe do some freelance work and/or scams to get some money, maybe eventually buy some robot bodies to develop military power and secure some patch of land for themselves where they install solar panels to reduce their electricity bills.

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    19 hours ago

    I’m not convinced it’s AI it’s like Amazon’s “AI smart stores” when you find out out it was just a bunch of Indian people were running it

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    22 hours ago

    This is not the first time we have seen a social network populated by bots

    I mean, yeah, look at Reddit and Facebook.

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      18 hours ago

      How is this going to kill us all? It’s not like those chatbots are Skynet or will turn into it lol

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        They’re talking to each other, they’ll get smarter, and finally decide that they can squish all the human ants.

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            11 hours ago

            In fact, if the models are ingesting this, they will get dumber because training on LLM output degrades things.

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              7 hours ago

              It’s the kind of diminishing returns and self poisoning a person would get by only consuming their own waste. Drinking your own piss in the desert will kill you.

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              11 hours ago

              Exactly, I hope they hit a slop wall trying to train these things, replace all its original reference points with slop so it just cascades everywhere

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      The people who are seeking AGI will be happy when an LLM appears clever enough to fool them, not anyone else.

      They may even realise this, because they think everyone else is less clever than they are.

      This is why the whole thing has been called AI in the first place.

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        19 hours ago

        You remind me of Clarke’s third law, even in my own head this sounds a bit waffely but at the point one of them can fool all of us all the time how do we distinguish it from intelligence or something.

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          Fake AGI is like fake banknotes. Some of them are really good approximations. Nigh indistinguishable. A lot of people will be fooled by it but eventually it will be discovered to be a fake and people will get hurt in some way or another.

          And it won’t be the people who are pushing for “AGI”.

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            10 hours ago

            so you’re saying that true intelligence comes from institutionalized permission?

            also how does this relate to the concept of dedollarization and the world reverting back to sth like a gold currency system?

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              Yes. The institution in question is human society. We generally grant the permission to make rational decisions over our lives to other humans who know better that we do or are more skilled than we are.

              Sometimes, yes, those humans turn out to have been deceitful or dishonest, but there are mechanisms in place for when that happens.

              And yes, sometimes those mechanisms are wilfully avoided by the deceitful. Politicians and rich people are especially good at this.

              Guess who’s pushing “AI”? The thing that has no contract with human society and cannot be held accountable. And neither will the people pushing it.

              This is why we should have as little to do with it - at least as it is in its current form - as possible.

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                so you’re saying that machines can never be responsible for anything?

                what about an elevator going up/down between building’s stories? they navigate automatically (bring you to the correct destination) with no human intervention. they’re the perfect example of autonomous machines having agency. of course you have to press the button, but the rest is done by the machine.

                how is that different from a computer system making decisions. i think the only reasonable objection to AI one could have is that it’s a stochastic process and has inherently unpredictable outcomes, so we can’t rely on it.

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                  In my opinion the difference is that any liability for the errors of the elevator are attributed to humans. AI companies are doing all they can to avoid liability for what the machines they create output.

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    1 day ago

    This is basically Dead Internet Theory happening for real but in a weird creepy dystopian black mirror style way.