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As expected
The article leaves out that this was on Commander Wiseman’s personal tablet, a Microsoft Surface Pro and not any device associated with the mission.
He sought tech support for internet connectivity issues on a PCD (personal computing device), which is a Microsoft Surface Pro.
The ‘Two Microsoft Outlooks’ was a description of the issue he was having. The headline is implying that there are two machines running Outlook that don’t work.
NASA detected that the PCD was actually on a network. It asked the commander for permission to connect to the tablet remotely so it could look into a problem with the Optimus software. “I also see that I have two Microsoft Outlooks and neither one of those are working,” Wiseman responded, per a clip shared by Niki Grayson on Bluesky. “If you wanna remote in and check Optimus and those two Outlooks, that would be awesome.”
The source of the quotes and a better article:
The spacecraft that took astronauts to the Moon used the Apollo Guidance Computer, developed by MIT’s Instrumentation Laboratory.
Clock speed: Approximately 1 MHz Memory: About 64 KB total Word size: 16-bit architecture Power consumption: About 55 watts…how does 36KB RAM and 72KB ROM give you a total of 64KB?
Space dilation.
The AGC had 2048 words of erasable core storage, what we’d now call RAM, and 36,864 words of read only core rope memory. So a total of 38,912 words. Each word is 15 bits plus a parity bit, so that’d work out to 75,776 bytes or 72,168 bytes depending on whether you count parity or not, and then kilobytes, kibibytes…it’s closer to 64k than 32 or 128.
Not the best… outlook.
So, just like here on Earth then.
Should have used women with pencils again instead of MicroSlop.
https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/places-of-hidden-figures.htm
This was a personal device, not a mission unit.
Why the fuck would you use windows in mission critical spaces.
You wouldn’t and they didn’t.
The article has just failed to inform the readers (the few that got past the headline), that this was on his personal Surface Tablet and not on anything associated with the mission.
To phone home
Imagine: You are the first human approaching the moon for a landing since 50+ years. Just a couple of seconds before touchdown the PC starts rebooting because an engineer clicked remind me later on earth and the PC registered that nobody moved the mouse or pressed a key for more than 3 nanoseconds so the user is surely AFK and has definitely nothing important going on so let’s close all open documents and reboot 🤷🏻♂️
There was a slight miscommunication at the fabrication stage. The requirement was to include windows and now they are in a windowless tube with two not functioning outlook accounts. Honest mistake, could happen to anyone
Uhhh so they can see where they are
To have a nice Outlook on things
So they can rest while the Copilot handles stuff for a while
Idk, if I go to space I def want windows … operated by trained, reliable penguins.
I would not sit in anything running Microslop shit.
The capsule isn’t. It’s the mission commander’s personal device.
The question is do they have a Copilot?
I hope not. If they ask it to summarize the email that Houston sends them, it could be a disaster.
I hope not. If they ask it to summarize the email that Houston sends them,
it couldwill be a disaster.FTFY
I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.
Heresy, using an actual AGI example. Also, Dave did nothing wrong. It’s always the humans that screw things up. (2010 for reference)
Unpopular opinion - both SkyNet and the AI in The Matrix were also not in the wrong. I think The Animatrix documents why that’s true in that particular franchise. Again, it’s the humans. Hell, maybe even Ultron had a few good points, he just went insane in the first microseconds trying to rationalize it all.
Thanos was right in theory, incorrect in execution.
Thanos was wrong in theory.
Halving all life doesn’t change the life to resources ratio. Even halving all sapient life doesn’t solve anything when populations will just continue to grow.
Nice April 1st. I mean that’d be almost as ridiculous as running nuclear subs on Windows, right? Long EOL’d versions at that, eh?
rustles papers
Oh.
On the stream you could very easily see his PIN code being put in, hopefully it’s limited to that device!
Probably not, I’d imagine all the tablets have the same pin to make things easier.
Shit, I left my 2FA device at home!
“please provide fingerprint to verify”
Looks at glove
“Fuck”
I think that’s the point of PINs. Otherwise they’d just be very, very shitty MS account passwords.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a19061/britains-doomsday-subs-run-windows-xp/
(Though, of course, that’s alledgedly simplifying a lot to make it more click-bait-y: https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-trident-doesnt-run-windows-xp/ )
Of course a submarine’s systems won’t be connected to the internet, but using a Windows base with a “Custom Support Agreement” still gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs.
IMO something so critical to defense should be built by British developers, and based on OpenBSD.Further to this, there isn’t a ‘launch the nuclear weapons’ application which controls things. Windows is used for the day to day admin - producing the paperwork required in any organisation - but the actual control systems, for the submarine, the weapons the reactor etc are not running off windows.
using a Windows base with a “Custom Support Agreement” still gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs.
No, it doesn’t.
How is Microsoft going to affect the software installed on a nuclear submarine?
It only gives Microsoft the power to choose to not add new features, the software wouldn’t be on the sub if it required any kind of outside support… the entire point of a nuclear submarine is to perform a second strike after everyone (including Microsoft) is destroyed in a nuclear apocalypse.
Having software that’s dependent on anything that isn’t on the boat would completely defeat that purpose.
gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs.
You, umm, probably shouldn’t look up who maintains the trident missiles those subs carry…
Are they maintained by a private corporation?
I bet it’s Adobe. Turns out making or maintaining nukes isn’t really that hard or expensive. It’s just the subscription to Adobe Apocalypse that’s the real blocker for most economies.
I agree, but then I’m one of those really hardcore libre-software-only nutcases ;-)
EDIT: Though, to be fair, the Trident Missiles they carry are US-made, too, so…
Ha! They used to run Unix.
Or …so I hear.
Most defense systems use some flavor of Unix/Linux.
Windows is used by the HR person on board to do office work like sending e-mails and updating spreadsheets.
They use Debian on the ISS
It would be catastrophic to have windows on a space station
Why do they have any Microslop software?
What the article fails to mention is that this is on Commander Wiseman’s personal Surface Pro and not on any mission-related systems.
Because a Microsoft sales rep bought a prostitute and cocaine for some senator.
My question exactly: The computers should be purpose-built, including the operating system.
Why TF aren’t they using something like NASA Linux‽
If they made it open source you bet your ass they’d get shittons of free support from the global community! If they’re running my software I’d be willing to hop on a call with the command center on any day at any hour!
“Yes, I know it’s Christmas but NASA is having some trouble with a systemd script on a space ship that’s currently in space…”
My question exactly: The computers should be purpose-built, including the operating system.
They are, mission critical systems are typically on a Unix/Linux base or completely custom built.
The systems that use Windows are the ones related to office work, like updating the crew’s bank information and distributing pay.
Typically they’re an rtos like vxworks.
Very likely that some degree of funding came from MS, usage of MS software is likely part of the contract.
Very likely that some degree of funding came from MS
are you 8 years old?
MS got a thick government contract.
xD
I’ve worked for a lot of companies throughout my life and admittedly I’ve never worked in the space industry, but practically everywhere just hosts our own damn email, why are they using Microsoft accounts?
They’re not, it was his personal tablet.
Haha! Space travel, meet rolling releases.
Thank you!
