• LordCrom@lemmy.world
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    50 minutes ago

    Somebody out there is thinking “why not vibe code it and get it done by AI fast?”

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    5 hours ago

    Other countries would be horrified to hear that critical infrastructure had been so neglected, but this is just another day in the US of fucking A

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      3 hours ago

      There was actually a benefit to being behind the curve on this.

      The scheduling is done on modern machines, the actual flight control console is a glorified comms station with a very beefy audio recorder.

      It’s built to last, and to be as reliable as possible, while still being repairable by a skilled technician.

      Any update needs to be as solid and reliable as what it replaces. That’s the key, not being advanced or some shit.

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    8 hours ago

    Old tech is solid and reliable. Do you really want the modern tech ethos of “move fast and break stuff” to apply to Air Traffic Control? I wouldn’t trust the big tech companies to write software for red-lights without killing people.

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      7 hours ago

      Old tech still requires maintenance and replacement parts. This tech is so old that they can’t effectively provide either. I 100% agree with you that you don’t want to “move fast and break things” but there does need to be a program to upgrade over time to deal with the maintenance and replacement problems, as well as improve capabilities and safety. The fact that some ATC systems completely crashed in recent months, leaving air traffic in a very dangerous state, is evidence of this problem.

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      7 hours ago

      The floppy disk is 60 years old. In which universe is migrating away from 60-year-old technology “moving fast and breaking stuff”?!

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        5 hours ago

        What are they moving to? Because that’s what the comment is referencing. The new tech they are moving to, not the old tech.

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      6 hours ago

      It’s not so much that new tech is bad … new tech could be made to be ten times safer than what we have now.

      The problem is that the new tech is controlled by psychopaths who want to squeeze as much profit out of everything imaginable … imagine all that new tech controlling air traffic but its all locked up by proprietary software that would hold entire airports, agencies and governments hostage, or be made available to the highest bidder and even for international opponents or enemies … and all of it up for grabs for profit and regardless of morals, ethics or human decency.

    • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 hours ago

      Floppy discs reliable? I remember mine not working if I transported them in my backpack when it was cold outside. They came back to life when “thawed”, but I’d prefer airliners use something better!

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        5 hours ago

        These don’t get transported like that. We’re talking climate control and backups and so on. It’s reliable because the failure rates and causes are known and accounted for.

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      6 hours ago

      Lol I use software every day that was written in COBOL. It would cost billions to replace. So leadership never wants to add that expense to their budget so they just hobble along and leave it for the next people.

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        3 hours ago

        I’m pretty sure the software I use for work is written in COBOL too, but they’re currently in a multi-year rollout of a modern replacement. So that’s good, I guess.

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    8 hours ago

    I don’t trust it happening well under Trump so I’m going to take this as a sign to be prepared for far more crashes in the next two years.