• rumba@lemmy.zip
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    2 hours ago

    I shit you not, IT around 2004, I had a nurse who stored all her important docs in “Recyle Bin”

    She put in a ticket that her computer was slow. We scheduled a time to look at it and made sure she knew to be there.

    When I showed up, she had left to go to lunch on purpose so she could take a free long lunch. I asked her manager to call her back in, she refused.

    I diagnosed she was out of space, and emptied her bin.

    That did not end up going well.

    She was furious, Her boss was mad. My boss was pissed that it happened but considered it reasonable since she refused to be there.

    I spent the better part of 4 hours undeleting deleted recycle bin contents which is WAYYYYYY harder than undeleting deleted files. They’re already UUID’s and bringing them back into existence will not put them back in the recycle bin, all that meta is gone.

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    Man, I hate my moms pc folder layout, like why do you have Documents folder inside of documents folder inside of Documents folder? Why do you create excel sheets inside Downloads folder when you didn’t download them???

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      I make a point to train people on this at work, and I also make a point to periodically delete all relevant files that are not dated or not dated correctly

      oh no you lost some important files? should’ve followed the standards

      we only have so much space and your 1.2 GB undated file that isn’t even in the folder it should be in is getting deleted

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      ISO 8601 is YYYYMMDD (or YYYY-MM-DD in extended format)

      Are you really going to wood chipper someone for leaving off the leading 20? I think we can safely infer the century and millennium with a high confidence, why not trade them for two extra name characters?

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    I’ll say that as much as I love Apple and macOS, Finder has some pretty terrible defaults that make file management pretty difficult for the average user. The default “All Files” view is atrocious.

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      1. Not being able to create a file
      2. Folders aren’t by default listed at the top
      3. Spring-loaded folders are hit or miss
      4. No good intuitive way to set defaults for ALL folders at once
      5. No good intuitive way to reset any folder defaults
      6. .DS_Store and ._DS_Store (nuff said)
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        I HATE that windows will sort folders at the top instead of alphabetically with everything else. I guess it comes from using a Mac for so long.

        I agree about .DS_Store in any mixed os environment though.

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            Because if you’re looking for a subfolder you’re not looking for a file, and vice versa? It doesn’t matter much in sparse directories, but it annoys me having to scroll through a ton of files to find the folder I want in directories with both.

            I too like a lot of things about Mac, but finder could be improved, for sure.

            (I have gotten used to a lot of its features and hate Windows’ defaults too, so there’s that. I don’t think an ideal exists, unless it’s in Linux somewhere and I just need to dual boot the desktop and get it over with)

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              On macOS I just type the first few letters of the file/folder and because it’s in alphabetical order, I find it immediately. I don’t want to have to think “oh is this a file or a folder” then scroll around to the appropriate area.

              This reminds me of users who complain about <select> fields on websites: they always want some weird sorting instead of just tabbing into the field and typing a few letters.

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                Thar makes sense, although I am generally not trying to use the keyboard at the same time (to be honest I was not aware you could filter a finder view like that, I thought it only ran search and I have never found MacOS’s search to be satisfactory)

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                  I grew up on Windows but when I came to macOS I went hard into key commands; the UI is a lot more uniform so using a combination of key commands and Trackpad gestures you can fly through tasks pretty quickly.

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                I haven’t memorized everything, so file folders grouped together is easier.

                Having the option to choose to sort either way would be the best option.

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            This doesn’t sound any easier than using Ctrl+X to cut files and Ctrl+V to paste them wherever you want to?

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              Depends on how you use your computer. Plenty of people would tell you that using a GUI file manager and cutting/moving files is inefficient on any platform as opposed to just using a terminal.

              There are times where it’s nice to drag a file or group of files and have Finder show me the content of the destination folder before I decide to drop the files. But sure I could do that with 3 mouse clicks and 4 keyboard taps.

              I think that terminal only or primarily terminal is valuable, a combination of mouse and keyboard with shortcuts is valuable, and also the ability to just use your mouse (especially helpful for accessibility) is also valuable, and they all should be supported.

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          You can do all file management operations from the command line. No need to use the Finder.

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            I don’t think the “average user” is going to drop Finder to use the terminal.

            In fact though I’m not an “average user”and use bash, zsh pretty much every day, there are still some things I’d rather do in Finder.

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      Especially younger people. They’re used to files just… being there on their phone. Photo albums? Nah, just scroll though every photo you’ve ever taken to find the right one.

      That, and having powerful search functionality + tagging has made perfect folder structures less of a requirement. I’ve never had trouble finding documents in paperless-ngx just by searching, for example.

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      What is this “desktop” of which you speak?

      Is that what’s under all these files?

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      My actual desk and office - messy. My desktop - folder, folder, 4 shortcuts. My phone -groups of apps ordered by function - Pebble, Office, Entertainment, etc. My garage - absolute hoarder nightmare from hell cause I just can’t seem to get to it. Why I can be ordered in one area and not in another is beyond me.

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    I find myself having too many nested folders, and I’m just a normie. I wonder how deep they go for you tech people.

    At some points, Windows won’t let me change the file name because it was too long and I’m assuming the file path to it plus the ridiculously long name (“person last name, first name - type of document (purpose) yyyymmdd”) just breaks Windows.

    Sometimes I have to copy those files to my desktop just to rename the new file, so that I can upload the file to an online system that only lets me upload files with names under 42 characters long. It’s wild.

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      Too deep.
      I am having a peoblem bwcause sometimes I broke my own rules or sorted every itme in it’s own folder.

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      This was one of the reasons I quit trying to develop on Windows way back when. I had a very well organized system of subfolders for all my code, and it was literally running into some kind of path length limit trying to import deeply nested dependencies in certain projects. This was WELL into the era of 64-bit computing, absolutely no excuse other than Microsoft taking shortcuts.

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        I still run into this issue when one of my company’s clients requires developing on Windows. Doesn’t take many subfolders before node_modules just starts breaking.

        There are lots of reasons I hate developing on windows and that’s certainly one of them.

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      You can enable long names in Windows, essentially removing that restriction and giving you the power of all the sub folders up to something like 26’000 characters.

      1. Open the Registry Editor.
      2. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FileSystem
      3. Find the LongPathsEnabled DWORD value, double-click it, and set its value to 1
      4. Restart your computer
      5. Be free and happy
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          A lot of apps still use legacy Windows APIs that don’t understand very long paths. Those APIs have been deprecated for maybe 15 years or more, but developers are lazy. Microsoft can’t add support for long paths to the old APIs because they use a fixed buffer size (which means that only a certain amount of memory space is available for the path, and increasing it would break the apps that rely on that). They can’t totally remove the old APIs because every app that uses them would break.

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            They can’t totally remove the old APIs because every app that uses them would break.

            For every other company I would buy that argument. But for one that forces customers to throw away millions of computers which can’t run Win 11… no.

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      In my obsidian notes folder, i have

      • 01 - Inbox
      • 02 - Breadbox
      • 03 - Data

      .

      • Inbox is for newly created notes
      • Breadbox is for notes that i need to reference or otherwise want quick access to
      • Data is for everything else

      For file navigation, i use links and references within the notes themselves, which creates a network of linked files that is far far easier to navigate than folders


      Everything else is sorta all over the place, but in general

      • ~/Documents
        • dumping ground for important documents, folders are arbitrarily made as I go
      • ~/Downloads
        • dumping grounds for downloaded things, generally important files are moved elsewhere
      • ~/Code is where i put all of my personal projects and other junk related to programming

      ~/ is the user home directory

      • C:\Users\Name for windows
      • /home/name for linux

      For pictures, i use a self hosted Immich instance

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      My paths are pretty short ngl /home/user/devel/projects/android/testproject/ Probably is the longest one. Or maybe even /home/user/devel/lessons/dotnet-aspnet/exam/AspnetExam/xxxroot/libs/bootstrap-icons/ But that one is temporary, I’ll archive it once it’s done

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      In my projects folder I have an “all” folder where I store all my projects. But back at the projects folder there are others like “by-client”, " by-language", and “by-date”. When I make a new project I create it inside the all folder, and then place shortcuts inside the corresponding folders.

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        I do something like:

        From Documents > ‘routine documents’ > FY > Month > Section (personnel, operations, or logistics) > and whatever task from there for my main day-to-day stuff

        But, for operations outside of the monthly sort, like managing personnel training, it gets really weird;

        From Documents > Training > FY > department > categories of training > subcategory > individual person’s folder for the course > application folders with dates (the last folder here is when the one that got approved and they’re going to the school on).

        This one is where I end up with file names I can’t rename.