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I dont like mushrooms, maybe this is why… :)
I had always learned if it has seeds (in nature) then it was a fruit, otherwise it was a vegetable or something else
if it has seeds (in nature) then it was a fruit, otherwise it was a vegetable
Many vegetables have seeds.
Pumpkins are already in the example, but think peppers, legumes
I have a simple flowchart to determine what is or isn’t a veggie:
> Can I eat it? -> Yes -> Does it come from an animal? -> No = Vegetable
That’s why they call you the bread man.
Sand has a lot of minerals in it. Probably the healthiest veggie of them all!
First of all, cucumbers get the same flack, and those are actually green.
VEGETABLES DO NOT EXIST
My wife and I like to joke that vegetables aren’t real and all of them are just something else in reality.
You’re correct! “Vegetable” is a culinary term. “Fruit” is both botanical and culinary. The “tomato isn’t a fruit” nonsense comes from people trying to conflate the two; if we called botanical fruits “grunkles” we wouldn’t have this problem.
All in favor of renaming botanical fruits to “gruntled”?
Aye
Edit: God damn you, autocorrect
FFTFY:
Not fixed as ‘content not viewable in your region’
Fixed now?
Yes!
The fuck region are you in?
You need to be in a better region.
Don’t we all
Yeah I knew mushrooms were shady shit since when they snuck in with the badgers. Nobody batted an eye back then and look at where we are now.
Why you hatin’ on mushrooms? They’re a fungi, if you get to know 'em
I always categorized them as a snake
Big Mushroom is taking the slow play, and frankly, it’s impressive
Vegetables aren’t real. They made up the classification just to sell things that aren’t fruits.
Big Celery just trying to legitimize crunchy water
I could go for some refreshingly crunchy big celery right now
Maybe dipped in some oily legume seed paste that has a name including -nut but isn’t one
Same with nuts. Botanically, not a thing.
johnny is human tho
Now this a QAnon theory I can align with. #finally
Now this a QAnon theory I can align with. #finally
Now this a QAnon theory I can align with. #finally
Fruit has a botanical and a culinary definition.
Vegetable only has a culinary definition.
Trying to decide on what food fits which category purely on the botanical definition of fruit is silly. In many other languages, the botanical and culinary definition even use completely different words. It’s like saying lobster is red meat using a scientific definition of red.
But if we are having fun with this, rhubarb: definitely no fruit, but far too sweet, too often consumed raw or minimally processed, and far too at home in a yoghurt to fit nicely into the group vegetable.
Well vegetable used to be used sometimes to mean “plant”.
Most people don’t really understand how words work.
Having both definition of the same word that can be confused with each other is also silly, the culinary definition should find a new word.
Rhubarb’s just sour celery
THANK YOU
But if we are having fun with this, rhubarb: definitely no fruit, far too sweet to fit nicely into vegetable.
Oh boy, another reason to hate rhubarb.
Also, you want a sweet vegetable? Sugar beet.
raw unprocessed sugar cane is delicious
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Tomatoes are biologically fruit, but culinary they are a vegetable.
You wouldn’t expect them to put an orange slice on your burger because you asked for some veg, would you? But you’d expect tomatoes.
I’m sorry, who exactly is out here calling mushrooms vegetables??
I believe, it’s a US thing. This is a quote from the official Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGA):
Other Vegetables: All other fresh, frozen, and canned vegetables, cooked or raw: for example, asparagus, avocado, bamboo shoots, beets, bitter melon, Brussels sprouts, cabbage (green, red, napa, savoy), cactus pads (nopales), cauliflower, celery, chayote (mirliton), cucumber, eggplant, green beans, kohlrabi, luffa, mushrooms, okra, onions, radish, rutabaga, seaweed, snow peas, summer squash, tomatillos, and turnips.
Source: https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/sites/default/files/2021-03/Dietary_Guidelines_for_Americans-2020-2025.pdf (page 28)
I’ve read elsewhere that the reason for the DGA to conflate them, is because mushrooms have comparable nutrients to vegetables. So, from a dietary and regulatory viewpoint, it makes some amount of sense. But yeah, I feel like you could have just had a category “vegetables & mushrooms”.
I am American.
If it goes in soup, it’s a vegetable. If it goes in Sangria, it’s a fruit.
Next question please.
As always, science sets us free.
So water, salt, cheese, meat, and noodles are all vegetables?
Water is debatable, everything else why not. If a recipe is generic enough to call for “vegetables”, you wouldn’t be wrong to include any of those things.
So a roasted chicken is a vegetable?
Hmmm. Since breakfast cereal is demonstrably soup, that makes strawberries, Cheerios, and Reese’s Puffs all vegetables. Good to know.
Oh, fun! The debate over the culinary vs botanical meaning of fruit intersecting with the debate of culinary vs topological meaning of soup.
Breakfast cereal is soup[topological] but not soup[culinary]. It is therefore not a contradiction for it to be fruit[culinary].
As some said once, a vanilla soy latte is technically a 3 bean soup
Great word, topological.
Chicken and beef go in soup.
Therefore, chicken and beef is vegetables.
Checkmate, vegans!
Soup is just beef tea
Assuming you like eating chicken, when is it wrong to pair chicken with vegetables? I made a vegetable-mushroom-chicken soup last week and it was delish. Whether chicken is or isn’t a vegetable is an academic concern, not a culinary one.
Try putting mushrooms or chicken in the sangria however and you’ll be rightfully prosecuted for crimes against humanity.
Is water a fruit or a vegetable
I absolutely call them vegetables. It’s a kitchen term and it absolutely makes sense to categorise them alongside tomatoes, beans, carrots, squash and cabbage. People get too hung up on things only belonging to exactly one category.
Take a piece of paper with 3 squares drawn on it
And hand a person a picture of an apple, tomato, pepper, cucumber, pork cutlet, and mushroom and ask them to put the pictures into the squares and then label each square
Average person will definitely label a box as vegetables and put the mushrooms in it
Why are we starting this scenario with the arbitrary restriction of 3? Yes, if you give people any number of items and tell them there is a finite number of categories, they were will find a way to divide those items into three. That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t come up with a more compelling argument for their choices when told to divide into 4 groups.
At no point have our options ever only been “fruit or vegetable,” but yeah I guess if you tell people those are their only choices of course they’ll adhere. But like… I’ve never known anyone who though those were the only choices?
Well if you tell me to use only three categories and one of them will obviously be “meat”, then I won’t put them with apples.
Apple, tomato, peppers, and cucumbers are all fruits
Mushrooms are mushrooms
Pork is meat
But if you give the average person those it’s much more likely they will make the categories fruits, vegetables, and meat and put mushrooms in the vegetable category
One box labeled “Brown when cooked properly”. Then mushrooms can go in the box with the apples and cutlets.
Box labeled “burnt to a crisp” and put everything in it.
That sign can’t stop me because I can’t cook (let alone properly).
Most everyone.
