• Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
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    I think people really misunderstand cookies and have been lead to get angry at exactly the wrong things which actually give the biggest companies huge advantages so they’re fine with all of this mumbojumbo.

    When you cant have local cookies, or there are hoops, companies that need not bother with this because they own your browser (Google) or companies that own major search engines (Google) or companies that most other companies rely on for ads or social media integration etc (Google) are tremendously advantaged.

    Now, basically only Google can collect a wholistic profile of a user, while regular websites must now waste extra man power implementing completely useless cookie preferences when in reality this should have been simplified, at worst, to 3 buttons.

    All, No Marketting, No Telemetry.

    Anything else is just the user wasting their time or destroying the functionality of a website for no reason/requiring busy body work to comply with ill conceived regulations.

    With the downfall of third party cookies in most browsers, cookies literally just serve as some temporary storage for websites on your local machine. Cookies existing or not existing arent what control whether you are tracked, especially given all the fancy fingerprinting that goes on nowadays.

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    Settings -> Privacy and Security -> Enhanced Tracking Protection -> Custom -> All cookies (will cause websites to break)

    Open site -> it breaks -> do i really need it? (no) Move on to the next site. (yes) Ctrl+I -> Permissions -> Set Cookies - uncheck “Use Default” - Allow

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    4 hours ago

    So, probably stupid question.

    If a website pops up and asks for permission, and I bypass that pop-up in some way (like killing the pop up with an addon or some you can just ignore it and keep scrolling with it on the bottom of the screen)

    Until ive clicked agree, do websites just not start tracking or creating or doing anything with cookies? After all, they’ve acknowledged they need, dont have permission.

    Or is this by and large pointless, and unless ive jumped through their hoops, they’ve already started the page with cookies enabled?

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      3 hours ago

      If the site is GDPR-compliant, they are not allowed to set any cookies until you click the accept button. But, a ton of sites and ad agencies are not. For example, Russians commonly just put a “we tracking you, deal with it. [OK]” banner, thinking they are funny, when it’s clearly illegal even by Russian law, but they are shielded from it by responsible officials incompetence. Same story in the US, I believe.

    • 𝕛𝕨𝕞-𝕕𝕖𝕧@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 hours ago

      depends on the site.

      legally you’re assuming the correct way it’s supposed to work in a lot of jurisdictions but in practice who actually litigates these sorts of things?

      people get away with it all the time.

      there’s also tons of sites hosted in places where it’s totally legal to just have cookies with any user from anywhere with or without consent, those might have a permission banner just as a UX thing to make the site feel more “familiar” or “official”. learning how whole contemporary stack works, at least broadly speaking, is one of the only remaining ways to actually be proactive. knowledge is power.

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      6 hours ago

      Gdpr seemed like it was designed to ban this, but lately companies (especially German ones?) seem to be trying this. I guess it won’t be resolved without a big, slow, expensive court case.

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      I keep seeing this a lot lately. I also saw one that had the style from the image (accept all or refuse maybe), but if you hit refuse, a second one popped up that said:

      [pay to read]

      Or

      [read for free]

      I opened it in private mode and read for free just let me into the article. I’m guessing it accepts all.

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    7 hours ago

    AdNauseam + PopUpOFF + CanvasBlocker + Bypass Paywalls Clean

    “No, I don’t want ads. No, I don’t want cookies. No, I don’t want to even be asked about cookies, or subscribing to your newsletter, or to sign up for access to this article. Fuck off.”

  • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
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    Besides opening up and viewing a lot of these sites on private tabs, I’m just getting used to cleaning all cookies after I finished checking up what I wanted.

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    Malicious compliance writ large.

    Also, the number of hurdles you have to clear for this tells volumes about where the site owner priorities lie.

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      Hence why the EU is now forcing an “easy way to decline”. All compliant websites have a “reject all cookies” button now.

      Which I learned on accident, because normally I have Ghostery installed, which just rejects all cookies automatically.

      • That Weird Vegan she/her@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        There was some controversy around Ghostery. A number of years ago, I believe they were allowing anyone who paid them money to not be blocked. They have since reversed track, but I won’t ever use their plugin again.

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        I’m pretty sure that was the law from day 1 and the only difference is they’re starting to crack down on it now

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    I need to verify this, but I vaguely remembered you’re supposed to be able to exit these safely in two clicks maximum, though they sometimes obscure it.

    Usually, it’s something like “Customize” then “Save” without checking anything, or just “Reject All”.

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      8 hours ago

      Correct. But companies seem to not give two fricks about it. There should be harsher punishments in place.

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      9 hours ago

      it’s even more straight forward than that; accepting and rejecting has to be the same number of steps.

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      I’ve seen a few sites set the toggles so that the on position is for options out instead of allowing the use of.