I don’t think anyone hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans.
I have watched every single Star Wars movie in theatres since I was a kid and they released the special editions in theatres. But last Jedi was so bad that I didn’t even bother to go see rise of skywalker. Not just in theatres, i still haven’t watched it to this day.
You’re not missing out, in my opinion it was not a good movie in any sense.
I thought the first movie of the new trilogy was actually pretty good though.
There are valid criticisms of it but it was all around a solid start to the next chapter of the franchise.
Then the last Jedi happened. Fuck that. And then whatever the rise of skywalker is. Oh emperor palpatine is alive again for no reason at all, woo.
If they’d have just kept the expanded universe canon and moved forward with that then everything would have been fine. But no. Let’s have an aggressive needlessly secretive admiral lady ram a starship, because “believe women” somehow also means “women are incapable of lying” or whatever the fuck the point of that idiocy was.
It’s just so fucking bad.
honestly, Disney’s treatment of the franchise killed my life long love for it
Lucas had already taken it out to the woodshed several times.
The franchise has historically been at its best in the fallow years, when people were just tapping into the IP to tell their own stories.
But you can say the same of Trek, of Harry Potter, of Marvel and DCU. Any time the suits take over, content trends towards slop
Agreed… however, I do have a specially dark and bitter place in my heart for Disney. They have a rotten touch and ruin every IP they buy
I absolutely love the Republic/Imperial Commando series by Karen Traviss which ended in a massive cliffhanger because Disney took over and didn’t allow her to continue.
Fuck Disney, all my homies hate Disney!
There are dozens of us!
Yeah, I just stopped paying attention altogether. The sequel trilogy is worse than the Holiday Special lol. I saw Rogue One and I was bored to tears. The Outlaws game requires an EA account to play. Star Wars is dead to me.
I saw Rogue One and I was bored to tears
Alright, hold up
Yeah out of all the meh Star wars and they go to rogue one? To me there’s only the originals, andor, and rogue one
The mandalorian is solid too.
Up until he gives the dark saver away for no fucking reason at all. That was stupid.
Isn’t Outlaws Ubisoft?
Star Wars has always been immensely overrated since the very first movie. I think those 9 movies are all the same. They are fun to watch, nothing more and nothing less. The animated tv shows are for kids, yet some adults are heavily invested in them. It’s on par with bronies.
Red Letter Media’s final thoughts on the state of Star Wars were pretty insightful: It’s become a container with a very specific aesthetic that Disney can pile an infinite number of things into: multi-quadrant science fiction blockbusters, preschool cartoons, carnival rides, political dramas, kids adventures, whatever.
It’s since stopped being a finite thing anyone can love anymore. When something becomes everything, it loses distinctness. That distinctness, whatever it was, is what early fans originally fell in love with.
Of course, those original objects still exist, but you have to specify them. You’re an “original trilogy” fan or an Andor fan or the made-for-TV Ewok movies fan†, but saying you’re a Star Wars fan is basically meaningless now. And for people who proudly wore that mantle, through eyerolls and ridicule, that’s a genuine loss.
† Teek from Battle for Endor has a posse.
but saying you’re a Star Wars fan is basically meaningless now. And for people who proudly wore that mantle, through eyerolls and ridicule, that’s a genuine loss.
I remember explaining something similar to my partner (not about Star Wars) and about how this isn’t about “gatekeeping” (though it can become gatekeeping) but rather about this loss. I can’t remember exactly what it was about now, but it was some aspect of nerd culture that didn’t exactly become mainstream, but rather morphed to become mainstream.
“Want to sell a lot? Just brand it Star Wars!”
The motivation for making a new show should be “We want to tell an amazing new story set within the Star Wars universe” but it’s actually “We want to make loads of money, therefore our new thing is going to be Star Wars.”
Disney Star Wars: MCU.
They’re giving Jaxon a movie?
Who?
Oh, I shove it in all the time, sweetie.
I’ve actually come to dread when they add a sequel to a good movie.
For every Terminator two there’s a Phantom menace.
For every Terminator 2 there are thousands of Phantom Menaces. It was one of very few good sequels to ever exist.
I enjoyed the P.M., cool world building and lore going on. The new shit however has nothing new or cool.
For all their flaws at least the pt expanded the universe in a coherent and believable way.
;_; Star Wars legends fan, I will continue to resent Disney forever for blighting one of my favorite franchises. But yeah new “Star Wars” content has ceased to excite me. When the acolyte came out and I saw the reviews I was completely unsurprised.
Most of these nerd fandoms are desperately throwing money at endless inept projects until it finally gets less shitty.
There’s so much SW stuff that is complete trash.
I gave up on star Wars way back when Disney decided to rub their shit all over it.
For all their issues, at least the Prequels tried to do something new and bring a completely new style and story to SW.
The Sequels just feel like someone wanted to rewrite the OT because they thought they had better ideas.
The prequels were super rich in world building, good stuff.
If Spielberg hadn’t convinced George to do everything himself, just imagine what kinds of stories we could have had…
Yeah, that was the real problem with the prequels. The ideas were good, but executing them often took Lucas outside of his areas of expertise. He needed more help making them, but everyone he asked told him “no”.
Star Wars isn’t good, Andor and Mandalorian S01 are good.
the only redeemable quality the mandalorian has is the werner herzog cameo
Add Rogue One, as well
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That Christmas special is pretty tight if you live somewhere with legal weed.
I know what I’m looking for this holiday week!
Mandalorian was hammy. I think people reeeeally want to pretend there’s something left in that wrung out dish rag of a franchise when there really isn’t.
And both of those definitely got the “popular series that drags on way too long” treatment.
Andor was only two seasons though??
Mandalorian is definitely my guilty pleasure. I just like the setting so much. Book of Boba however fucked up hard, besides the Tusken Raiders arc, I keep looking if there is a fan edit of just the Tusken Raider scenes and haven’t found anything yet. It is really annoyiny how they had to interweave it with the Mandalorian.
Mando? Yes. Andor? No.
Andor S02 was great tho?
It was, Andor is great. However, The Mandalorian is at least one season too long, the third season isn’t even about The Mandalorian anymore, he was just a side character for a large part of it.
Well, “dragging on way too long” is the main difference between a movie and a TV-show.
I guess everyone has their own cutoff point. I like works that are longer than movies but don’t go on for a bajillion seasons, especially if they actually seem like they want to tell a story. For me, it doesn’t even matter if the series is consistently good, I just don’t want to watch that much content for one show. Plus the longer it goes on without reaching a conclusion, the more likely it is that it’s just going to get canceled.
I suppose Andor doesn’t really deserve to get lumped in with the likes of Mandalorian here, considering that it managed to finish its story in two seasons.
I don’t care if it’s shit. I’ll pirate and watch every new show or a movie once, because that’s what I grew up with and that’s what comforts me
Fuck giving money to Disney though
Pirating out of spite is cool. Love that.
I stopped caring after the second trilogy, tbh. And even that, IIRC having watched them quite a few years after they were released.
