KB5077181 was released about a month ago as part of the February Patch Tuesday rollout. When the update first arrived, users reported a wide range of problems, including boot loops, login errors, and installation issues.

Microsoft has now acknowledged another problem linked to the same update. Some affected users see the message “C:\ is not accessible – Access denied” when trying to open the system drive.

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    I like how, once AI is invented, there is never a problem that isn’t AI related.

    Microsoft made broken shit before AI, it isn’t like they suddenly lost that capability once AI was invented.

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      It’s more like the old adage but extended: “To err is human, to really foul things up you need a computer, but to make an unbelievable mess you need an AI.”

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        That is certainly true and may very well be the case here.

        It could also be the case that a human developer forgot to bounds check an array and iterated out of bounds, corrupting some important kernel variable. We won’t know unless we get a postmortem.

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    Microsoft believes the issue may be related to the Samsung Share application, although the exact cause has not yet been confirmed.

    30percentofcodewrittenbyai.jpeg

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    There must be something really seriously wrong at Microsoft. I can understand that Windows patches are complex and that they might break some of those crazy things people are running on their machines. But how is a bug that is killing access to the C:\ drive able to get through testing? WTF are they doing?

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      My company is starting to roll out having AI both put up PRs AND give code reviews.

      I would not be surprised to hear Microslop is doing the same thing and having horrible results.

      Amazing what happens when you try to turn your talent pool into lifeless casino monitors.

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      It’s going to come out that there’s AI in the code. And the code testing was done by AI, who gave the buggy code the green light.

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      It’s not as bad as that time they permanently deleted user documents and photos.

      See they had this trick where if you didn’t have enough space on your drive to unpack an update, they’d just move your shit to OneDrive temporarily, then move it back when the update was done. Only they forgot to move it back, and lost it. Oops.

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        my boss loves AI and he uses it for everything. he made some stats graphs and summaries, and he was bragging how he got AI to make them errorless: he tells it to check for errors and makes it swear it’s accurate… while we were looking at a graph where the y column numbers were all fucked up

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          Interestingly, AI is actually pretty good at making graphs, the trick is you don’t ask it to actually make the graph itself. Instead you have to ask it to write a python script to create a graph using matplotlib from whatever source file contains the data, then run that script. Same with math. Don’t ask it to do math directly, instead ask it to write a bash or python script to do some math, then run that. Still not perfect, but your success rate increases by about 1000%

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            Because of so much open source and stack overflow it was trained on.

            But who writes bash scripts to do math?

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        And then the LLM says something like “You’re absolutely right, there was an error in that code that is clear and obvious now it has been pointed out and despite the fact you gave the instruction to make no errors. Is there anything else I can help with?”

        … and they’ll be too blind to take that as the warning it is and continue to ask even more of the LLM.

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      No one smart is going into windows dev in 2026. It’s like working on IBM mainframes. Only people left to work are middle of the road new grads they hire and boomers who are retiring.

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      It’s Microslop. This is what’s wrong. Also, that they fired too much of the testing staff in favor of (user-)testing rings.

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    How dare you have a factual, not sensationalized headline for anything concerning Microsoft. Let me fix this for you:

    Microsoft is eliminating the C drive in the latest version of Windows, leaving only OneDrive for users to store their files.

    🤬

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    They need to rapidly reduce the complexity of their software if they want to get this under control. The answer is NOT to add more features, it’s to simplify things.

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      They aren’t capable of doing that.

      Source on that is me, I worked for MSFT during the rollout of Windows 8 and the 360 red ring nightmare.

      They’re internally wayyyyy too culty and cliquey.

      Everyone has to do things the MSFT way, and the MSFT way is team leads all leading their own thing and arguing about why its so cool and necessary.

      The culture is diametrically opposed to simplifying things and reorienting around a fundamentally minimized, more stable core system.

      Everything has to be able to plug into as many other things as possible, which creates insane nested dependency loops and chains that they fuck up all the time.

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        The Red Ring of Death was around 2009 or so, Windows 8 rolled out in 2012. That was 14 years ago now.

        Headcount numbers:

        • 2012: ~94,000 employees.
        • 2026: ~228,000 employees.

        The median tenure of employment at Microsoft is 5.3 years, so most of those 94,000 employees will be long gone by now.

        Also, Satya Nadella took over in 2014 and made major changes to the corporate culture from the earlier Balmer era. Stack ranking was abolished, there were major corporate acquisitions that brought external corporate cultures inside (eg LinkedIn, GitHub, ZeniMax/Bethesda, Activision Blizzard, Nokia).

        I have no idea what Microsoft’s current internal culture is like but I think your impression is likely quite outdated by this point.

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          I mean, do those headcount numbers count contractors?

          V dashes? A dashes? Etc?

          The majority of MSFT’s workforce has been temp contractors for a very long time, and they do everything they can to have as few actual employees as possible.

          If your source is saying the average tenure is 5.3 years, no, no it is not counting contractors.

          Beyond that, unless you have an actual source for the culture shift beyond ‘you think so’, I’m going with no, everything I’ve described has gotten worse.

          That’s why I’ve, for years, been able to predict moves that MSFT would likely make, that people at the time think are ludicrous or incredibly pessimistic, worst case scenarios… and then they happen.

          As an example, I was saying MSFT probably just set Xbox with impossibly unrealistic profit targets for the Xbox/Gaming division, to more or less intentionally downsize it and then basically kill it off, over time, while acting like that’s not what they were doing… I said that a good deal of time before the news broke, that is exactly what happened.

          They are a gormless faceless machine that is unimaginably high on their own supply.

          Given the amount of outright caste based racism I saw amongst Indian actual employees vs Indian contractors when I was there, where HR told.me that actually ‘that’s just their culture’ and that I was being racist for pointing out abusive managers literally screaming at their lower caste underlings, whom they had by their H1-B balls…

          …yeah, I’m willing to bet it is now even worse.

          I’ve also worked at other large corps, a place or two in fairly high responsibilty positions.

          I’ve met a fair deal of the Seattle/Bellevue/Redmond upper management of various texh and other firms, and the thing they all have in common is an unimaginably inflated ego, elitist attitude, that propogates downward via basically an essentially religious level of respect for people in higher positions… its just expected to be shown by anyone under them.

          They really are like the corpos from Cyberpunk 77, they just don’t have the nakedly open bloodlust most of those corpos do.

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            I mean, do those headcount numbers count contractors?

            I linked the source for my information, feel free to dig into it for more detail.

            Beyond that, unless you have an actual source for the culture shift beyond ‘you think so’

            I literally said I didn’t know whether there had been a culture shift. Reread the last line of my comment. All I’m doing here is pointing out that your own view on the subject is likely very outdated at this point. There’s been enormous employee turnover, including right to the top CEO position, and other major companies have merged into Microsoft in the interim.

            I’m willing to bet it is now even worse.

            Based on?

            I’m not doubting your previous experience. I’m just pointing out that it was a long time ago and a lot has happened since then, so I’d like to hear some more recent evidence.

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          Force of habit, shorter to type, everyone knows what I mean.

          EDIT:

          It took me an embarassingly long amount of time to realize that does not work with 3RR.

          That was the internal code in a fair number of processes, for referring to ‘The Red Ring of Death’, the 3 red lit segments of a 360 that means basically 95% chance its gotta be RMA’d, likely just wholly replaced.

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    ffs how can at this much further into Windows cycle, and we still have shit like this? I mean the main drive is the most important one, I can understand if this happens to Win 1 or 2 but after soo many iterations? Just no.

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    We just had this month’s Patch Tuesday and they’re still dealing with problems caused by last month’s?! I really need to try harder to convince my father putting Linux on his current computer is a better idea than buying a Windows 11 computer.

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    Hopefully this doesn’t give Microslop executives the idea of turning it into a feature to force their users to save their files onto OneDrive

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      They’re already doing that by partnering with the likes of HP who keep pushing “1TB” Laptops - 128GB eMMC + 1TB OneDrive for a year.

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        They are marketed this way? Holy fraudulent ads Batman, I would never want to work at technical support for an OEM who does this, the phone lines will start glowing a bright orange after a year!

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          Well after a year, the pc you bought is out of warranty, so for us to help you resolve this, I would kindly ask for your credit card information