In person or online. Most entertaining thing to argue about? What gets you the most heated?
I don’t mind arguing, but it’s fueled by my undying rage at dumbfuck assholes. Pick a lane! Sheesh.
No.
What do you mean? Yes you do.
I think you might be right.
That’s not what you said last time!
I enjoy discussing and confronting ideas. I see no interest in arguing.
No, I enjoy respectful discussion and learning. There is a huge difference. When you get to the raised voices, snide remarks, and it feels like your hair is on fire the whole time it’s arguing.
I lived with a woman who loved to constantly bicker and argue, sometimes to the point where there were screaming matches over stupid stuff. You didn’t dare defy her. She was in a family that constantly fought and argued over pretty things. I was stuck with it and arguing with her boyfriends who 80 percent of the time were not all that bright. I hated arguing by the time I was in school.
That was my mother. When I finally left I could eat a meal and be sick, vomiting a green slime because of the constant fighting and crap. My son a few months prior had passed away at 9 days old, we had been homeless because of her decisions to not pay things, and her latest winner of a boyfriend kept picking fights with me because I was younger so obviously I knew nothing and he knew it all.
This man screwed up so many things because he could do it all. He did a brake job on a car and had to treat it apart again because he messed something else up. Not to mention he didn’t torque the lug nuts. My mother’s previous boyfriend would hand me a part and tell me, “the pickup needs tree water pump replaced, go do it.” When I had never done one in my life without telling me how pre internet and had no problem. From around 9 to i was 18 that guy who was a former biker, maybe draftee, and spent 15 years in maximum security prison for beating the crap of of his ex and her new man then taking a TV and slamming it on the man’s head nearly killing them both so also seemed to hate my guts.
I finally left not long after she got drunk and pissed off at me for something and told me how her life had been ruined because she had me.
I can’t stand fighting and arguing. I can’t stand taking on the phone either, my mother loved yelling and slamming them too she had the 50 foot cord and loved the cordless ones.
The only time I had fun with arguing was in WoW… have some public fight and be breezing through, then stir the pot and leave. Come back hours later and they were still at it. My favorite was for the grammar nazi’s, a simple, “There, their, they’re… it’ll be ok.” Was my favorite.
I loved arguing and being just overall mean and negative and a cunt to people on Reddit who posted really absolute complete garbage sludge, like parroting the same tired Le Epic phrases that were already posted 20 times in the comment section before they squeezed the rubbish bin juice out of their half-a-brain cell enough to comment “pLaY StUpiD GamEs, Win…” and when they’d get mad at me for being mean I’d always have a great time.
I can’t really do that here. It’s nice. I don’t really see completely horrible dumb garbage here very often. It’s very refreshing. So I don’t really feel the need to be a cunt anymore. As much.
Also sorry for the insane run-on sentence there, but it fits how I wanted to express it from my brain hole.
Not really. I can enjoy a debate, IF the other person is doing so in good faith. Challenging, enlightening discussions are always welcome!
Generally speaking, if one of us can’t “agree to disagree” and happily change the subject, then it won’t be a good time.
I disagree to agree to your point. /S
Hypothetically, yes. Practically, no. Arguing is fun and engaging when you have a sparring partner who is sharp, engaged, and persuadable. If changing someone’s mind isn’t on the table, or if all you’re capable of doing is poorly repeating memes and headlines you’ve seen, I’m not interested.
Exactly. Presenting arguments in good faith with people who are willing to accept objective views and valid factual information can be thrilling and present opportunity to learn about your own belief systems.
In practice, though, it is such a rare occurrence that you are mostly just better off banging your head against a wall.
For as long as the topic is interesting and the other person is being civil about it and is actually arguing against what I’m saying and not just what they think I’m saying.
Yes, a lot, it’s my favorite hobby. I like trying to make good arguments, appreciating when other people make good arguments, and pointing out bad arguments. Topic doesn’t matter too much, though maybe free speech is the one I get most heated about, especially the idea that arguments are worthless and should be suppressed.
Only against people who are wrong.
If it’s discourse, I find it can be enlightening and learn something new. I don’t really like heated arguments cos I just get ready to square up at that point. I’m confrontational about things I could probably just let go but I have to be a Larry David about it and the response is always very defensive from the person I’m calling out
Arguing is not contradicting everything I say.
Yes it is.
Stop that.
Who’s arguing? I came in here for a disagreement!
No you didn’t!
He absolutely did!
Context for the uninitiated:
No it isn’t!
No he didn’t!
He did!
What is wrong with you, why would you come onto the internet specifically looking for a disagreement? That’s so idiotic you’re worse than james madison and gorson ramsay COMBINED. I hope your favorite pants turn green
I used to, when I used to believe people could change their minds in response to a good argument. Now that I realise no one ever changes their mind because of an argument, I no longer enjoy it. Now I mostly see it as a self reinforcing public display of affiliation
I’d say it is very unlikely someone will change their mind because of an argument. But it is likely that someone will change their mind after several arguments, and some reflection. It may take years. This person may not see things the same way you do once they change, but they may change some of their views.
People do change their mind over time, but not from repeated exposure to arguments. That tends to have the opposite effect, and causes people to consolidate and solidify their position.
What gets them to change the opinion is varied, but it’s rarely “lots of arguments”
I’m not saying someone changes solely because of lots of arguments. Or repeated exposure, which I agree, are more likely to cement a position if they are essentially the same argument over and over. But arguments in general add to whatever experiences eventually change someone’s mind. Just another factor.
Fair, but I would put it under the umbrella of “social pushback”. When someone gets enough signalling from the people around them, either at large, or just in their communities and sub communities, they can shift from their opinions. But I don’t think arguing holds a special power there. Just telling someone their opinion is harmful and you don’t want to hear it has the same effect in the long term
I used to. I’m an old school troll. I enjoy messing with people and teasing. If I can make things difficult or awkward for someone, then get both of us to laugh about it, I’m in heaven. But over the last couple of decades people take themselves more seriously or something and its harder to get people to be silly or appreciate the absurd. People don’t enjoy it any more so I stopped doing it. I don’t want to get people actually mad, or have them be truly upset. But yeah, I’d argue just about anything to get someone going. I’d get more and more outrageous till they finally twigged what I was doing. Then I’d do the same thing to the next person but take a different stance. Usually the first person would join in and it would just snowball.
