In person or online. Most entertaining thing to argue about? What gets you the most heated?
Only against people who are wrong.
If it’s discourse, I find it can be enlightening and learn something new. I don’t really like heated arguments cos I just get ready to square up at that point. I’m confrontational about things I could probably just let go but I have to be a Larry David about it and the response is always very defensive from the person I’m calling out
I used to. I’m an old school troll. I enjoy messing with people and teasing. If I can make things difficult or awkward for someone, then get both of us to laugh about it, I’m in heaven. But over the last couple of decades people take themselves more seriously or something and its harder to get people to be silly or appreciate the absurd. People don’t enjoy it any more so I stopped doing it. I don’t want to get people actually mad, or have them be truly upset. But yeah, I’d argue just about anything to get someone going. I’d get more and more outrageous till they finally twigged what I was doing. Then I’d do the same thing to the next person but take a different stance. Usually the first person would join in and it would just snowball.
As in debate? I used to but I have less patience for it now. Its possible because I did so much of it I tire of rehashing things with folks who have not as thoroughly gone through the many things. I still am a little obsessed with the idea of truth though.
Not really. I can enjoy a debate, IF the other person is doing so in good faith. Challenging, enlightening discussions are always welcome!
Generally speaking, if one of us can’t “agree to disagree” and happily change the subject, then it won’t be a good time.
I disagree to agree to your point. /S
I used to, when I used to believe people could change their minds in response to a good argument. Now that I realise no one ever changes their mind because of an argument, I no longer enjoy it. Now I mostly see it as a self reinforcing public display of affiliation
I’d say it is very unlikely someone will change their mind because of an argument. But it is likely that someone will change their mind after several arguments, and some reflection. It may take years. This person may not see things the same way you do once they change, but they may change some of their views.
People do change their mind over time, but not from repeated exposure to arguments. That tends to have the opposite effect, and causes people to consolidate and solidify their position.
What gets them to change the opinion is varied, but it’s rarely “lots of arguments”
I’m not saying someone changes solely because of lots of arguments. Or repeated exposure, which I agree, are more likely to cement a position if they are essentially the same argument over and over. But arguments in general add to whatever experiences eventually change someone’s mind. Just another factor.
Hypothetically, yes. Practically, no. Arguing is fun and engaging when you have a sparring partner who is sharp, engaged, and persuadable. If changing someone’s mind isn’t on the table, or if all you’re capable of doing is poorly repeating memes and headlines you’ve seen, I’m not interested.
Exactly. Presenting arguments in good faith with people who are willing to accept objective views and valid factual information can be thrilling and present opportunity to learn about your own belief systems.
In practice, though, it is such a rare occurrence that you are mostly just better off banging your head against a wall.
Arguing is not contradicting everything I say.
Yes it is.
Stop that.
I really don’t. No-one argues to convince anyone, just to state their own opinions louder.
I totally disagree! /s
You know what? You’re right.
You have developed a very sad view of the world.
You know what? You’re right.
Typically, no. Not in person and not online. However, winning an argument - in particular one that brings fairness or justice as a consequence - feels very rewarding. But I still don’t enjoy the actual arguing part.
Discussing different points of view though, I don’t always consider this arguing. As long as it remains an exchange, it is pleasant. If I have to attack and defend something personal, then no.
Who’s arguing? I came in here for a disagreement!
No you didn’t!
He absolutely did!
Context for the uninitiated:
No it isn’t!
No he didn’t!
He did!
What is wrong with you, why would you come onto the internet specifically looking for a disagreement? That’s so idiotic you’re worse than james madison and gorson ramsay COMBINED. I hope your favorite pants turn green
I enjoy it when I find out I was wrong. That moment of “oh shit!?” is awesome.
I also really enjoy arguing pedantically over fictional worlds.
I used to. now I don’t want anyone to contradict me. I know I’m right, so if you argue with me you’re either stating a falsehood or falling prey to bad reasoning.
You’re not always right.
don’t contradict me
No
Yes?
No
Have you considered yes?
