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Posted on April fools. Is the joke that it’s such old news?
I’m shocked that the guardian outright just called people idiots.
Is this since kind of April fools, it was posted on the 1st of April.
I thought they were a legit publication.
Open AI - “I don’t understand why everyone hates me”
I asked AI and my RAM charged my credit card
I feel a lot of first-world privilege out of having all my gaming hardware from before the AI boom started. Around the time sanity lost the election, I decided to get a new GPU because I was worried all economies would turn terrible, and I was basically right.
Gaming is cheaper than ever. Just don’t buy new games. I haven’t bought a new AAA game in decades. There are thousands and thousands of games you can play for free or nearly free.
It’s like music. You can listen to lifetimes worth of music for free or nearly free. The only expensive thing is going to some fancy concert and giving a ton of money to Ticketmaster.
Well, you still need something to play it on. And since GPUs and RAM costs about a child and a half these days, I’d say it’s quite expensive.
Not if you use geforce now, that’s easy cheaper than buying a new pc
Sure, though you don’t need a state of the art PC to play 90% of the games ever made. These days I play a lot of my games on an old 3DS (hacked to the gills)!
I also have a huge steam library of games, many of which I bought for next to nothing in huge bundles during past sales. Many of them I still haven’t played! They would run fine on a 10 year old PC though.
You can buy new AAA games. Be /patientgamers. Just wait a few weeks or months after release and they almost always go on sale when companies want to boost server numbers to make quarterly reports look good. I haven’t paid release price for any AAA game in years. And it should go without saying: Do not preorder!
Yoshi’s Crafted World was the first, last and only preorder I’ve ever done.
I’m so sorry.
Brother, this isnt 2004.
AAA games rarely go on sale anymore, Dragon Quest Builders 2 is like 7 years old, and still 50 bucks, and last sale it went down to 25. 25 for a 7 year old game is just brutal absurdity.
and I just use that as an example, its the same almost across the entire board.
The only saving grace in gaming right now is indie games. Which are typically affordable.
Literally BF6 is on sale right now for 40% off. It was 50% off on some locations on Black Friday. It was 30% off 4 months ago. It was released early October. That’s 4 sales in 7 months for a AAA game.
I’ve bought Stray, Cyberpunk 2077, GTA, Elite: Dangeorus, Borderlands series, and many others all on sale and even a couple games for free.
I can’t help it if your particular games don’t get discounted, but telling me AAA games rarely do is completely wrong.
Yeah, and you are conveniently skipping over the most relevant part.
Lowest price history for cyberpunk 2077 is 20 bucks. 20 bucks for a 5 year old game is ridiculously overpriced.
Grand Theft Auto never goes under 15 dollars, which is over priced for how old the game is.
I personally wouldnt consider borderlands AAA games, but congratulations, you found the one game that had an actual legitimate sale and age related price drop with Elite: Dangerous, with the base games lowest sale price recorded as 2 bucks. WIth it currently on sale for 5. for a 11 year old game. Which is what the prices should be for an old game, and what all the other games should be doing once they are out of their content window.
Also, you don’t have to be so goddamn dismissive and hostile. I gave an example of my argument. Did you expect me to spend 3 weeks researching so i could produce a scientific paper detailing every game that is over priced?
There was nothing hostile in what I said. Maybe you don’t like being proven wrog? I didn’t expect anything of you much less a hyperbolic research paper, but nonetheless you chose hyperbole and shuffled the goalposts instead of actually continuing the discussion. I never said when I bought the games, but convenient of you to arbitrarily decide how old a game is before it’s not worth it for you. Nonetheless they’re on sale by your own admission, so that blows your “rarely” out of the water while you ignore BF6 being repeatedly on sale. But I suppose you’ll make excuses about that too?
will you both pull your heads out of your asses. both of you are correct. yes some stuff is on sale but it is also true that games are more expensive in general so even with sales… a more modern game will still be more expensive than a pre-2014 game (arbitrary year chosen). and RTA… you were pretty hostile so don’t deny that part. just because you personally think you aren’t hostile doesn’t mean that everyone agrees with you on that point. and while some games are consistently on sale… cherry picking a few games and saying “see game is on sale” doesn’t = not rare to see a sale. only about 60% of all games go on sale (and most of those are filled with micro transactions that make up the cost). there are less modern games receiving price reductions as they age but this is mostly corporate greed.
Just don’t let the Nintendo ninjas know that they are free
a humble bundle subscription pays for itself a dozen times over, too.
I disagree about concerns being equivalent to AAA games but you have a good point otherwise
gaming started getting expensive when micro-transactions became a thing. AI is just the latest fad they can blame their price gouging on. because when the AI bubble pops, that PS5 ain’t going back down in price.
Good oppurtunity to work on your backlog.
But if I do that I’ll never buy another game!
Hmm. You may be on to something there…
Working on my backlog is literally all of my gaming. Currently catching up on the old Assassin’s Creed games. Well worth it.
i gave up at Egypt. it lost the story for me
Or do as I do and buy random games for cheap. I’m on like hour 4 of Tim-Tim 2; The Almighty Gnome, that I got for like 50 cents.
Honestly a pretty good time.
main stream medias are finally catching on i see
Is the Guardian mainstream? I thought it was often derided as being fringe or a tabloid in the UK (this also may of been an effort to misinform, as I typically find myself agreeing with their articles, or at the least the ones I am presented with)
Yes, it’s a mainstream center-left newspaper in the UK, definitely not fringe or a tabloid
Yeah the guardian is a quality news source imo. One of the few good ones left in the world
Well shit, my bad, i somehow got the Guardian and the daily mail mixed up.
I still don’t think it’s editorial quality is great, but it’s not a tabloid by any stretch.
The guardian is a tabloid rag with bigger words.
Dang, was asking a question and discussing the way it has been presented to me and got buried, great discussion guys! Feeling like I’m back at home at Reddit :)
These days it’s difficult to tell if it’s ragebait or trolling and some people here think things are obvious because we too live in an echo chamber, and some will just downvote and move on if they see something they disagree with or don’t like. I wouldn’t worry so much about downvotes here, you don’t get really buried like on Reddit and it doesnt matter overall (or at all). The Guardian is a very well known centre left newspaper that isn’t run by a large news corp, but that doesnt make it fringe, and tabloids are known for low effort journalism/gossip so it doesnt fit those categories. Either way, I hope you don’t get discouraged from contributing here if you are genuinely adding to the discourse. If you baitin then ya got me.
Some real hair triggers around here sometimes.
Sorry, I was just answering your question and honestly didn’t mean it to sound agressive. English isn’t my native language so apologies if that came across as mean spirited, that wasn’t my intention
no, you see you got your replies, which was “no, it’s not that”, which kinda ended the discussion right there and being uninteresting to most it got downvoted, nothing to be disappointed about.
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As a PC gamer I would never condone such a statement about my console brethren (and sisters), but lol.
The new Super Mario Galaxy Movie is out today – as expected, it is a bare-bones story supported by a cavalcade of Nintendo cameos and bright action scenes. Dubbed “a bland screensaver of a movie” by the Guardian’s Peter Bradshaw, expect smooth-brained entertainment for Nintendo enjoyers.
Is it bad that smooth-brained entertainment for Nintendo enjoyers sounds about exactly what I’m equipped to handle right about now?
Like zoning out to some seriously tepid nostalgia-slop sounds good.
Last time I checked Mario Bros was supposed to be happy and fun and simple not an art house intellectual experience.
I wonder if a lot of the reviews are just the bitterness that it’s going to be a 1.5B movie and that ‘real cinema’ movies do pitifully at the box office these days, very rarely to they even make $100mil
i mean a lot of those ‘real cinema’ movies do pitifully at the box office because they’re fucking creepy glimpses into fucking creepy writers’, directors’, and editors’ minds
Fun being key here, not just a slideshow of colored images.
That sounds like almost an exact description of the first Mario movie.
Nintendo fans are smooth-brained thesedays though. I dont think its console specific, its Nintendo specific.
~ Former Nintendo Game Enjoyer
I disagree on the smooth brained comment. Nintendo first party games (the reason to buy their consoles) are always top-notch.
The ones I’ve bought on Switch 2:
- Mario Kart World - wonderful game with excellent driving mechanics. Open world and lots of fun.
- DK Bananza - endearing game with a heartfelt story, great music, fun gameplay. Really enjoyed my time 100%ing this game.
- pokemon Legends Z-A: good game overall. Nothing groundbreaking but fun.
- Pokemon Pokopia - I’m absolutely obsessed. Heartfelt story, hits so many nostalgic beats, tackles a difficult subject of humans destroying the environment. What happens to our Pokes when we humans have to leave them behind? Amazing game with deep breadth, excellent quality of life that builds upon typical sandbox games, and the music is so nice. When I first heard the Pokémon healing melody adapted into one song, or when I reached a destroyed Palette Town and heard all the original Pokémon Red/Blue musical beats embedded in the overarching musical theme, I was so moved. Very touching game, too. One of the best Pokémon spin offs I’ve played, and this game is canon.
Still waiting on more first-party games that are on the horizon - the potential Ocarina of Time remake if the rumors are true, Pokémon Winds/Waves, and the new 3D Mario game.
Any other game I haven’t picked up because I would rather play it on PC.
lol
They literally make games for the lowest common denominator and everything on the Switch 1 and 2 is so much worse than anything they’ve ever made prior to these systems. They look nice, but they are pretty brainless to play, geared toward young children, the elderly, and people who have never ever played a video game before.
Ok, but… I have young children and parents who I would like to be able to play games together. As far as I can tell, other than Roblox and Lego Party, literally nobody is catering to that market.
“They literally make games for the lowest common denominator and everything on the Switch 1 and 2 is so much worse than anything they’ve ever made prior to these systems. They look nice, but they are pretty brainless to play, geared toward young children, the elderly, and people who have never ever played a video game before.”
Sounds to me like you haven’t played any of the new Nintendo first-party games that are highly revered. Tears of the Kingdom as an example, is a gut-wrenching and dramatic game. I prefer the older Zelda games (having grown up on them starting with SNES), but I would be laughably naive to deny that the latest two Zelda’s have been ground breaking, or claim that they’re “made for people who never played a video game/lowest common denominator”. Mario Odyssey is charming and fun, and one of the best platformers I played (top title goes to Astro Bot on PS5 for me). The Xenoblade games are top tier. DK Bananza is endearing, touching, and incredibly fun. Pokopia, I already commented above - one of the best Pokémon games to have come out (given that GameFreak churns out games so quickly and refuse to innovate). Pokopia was developed by someone else, and boy does that game put the other mainline Pokémon games to shame. Lots of other examples, but I’m tired of typing on mobile.
Edit: I still love Nintendo first party games, but I’m a gamer. I play primarily PC, Nintendo, and then PS5 and Xbox Series for the occasional first party game I can’t get anywhere else - like Astro Bot. I regret the Xbox but man do I love Astro Bot on PS5 - best platformer I’ve ever played (for gameplay, not story).
I think the Nintendo fanboys need to take a step back and look what is actually being said.
They are smooth-brained games for smooth-brained players. As in they are basic, simple, and hand-holdy. There is no challenge. You basically do not need a brain to enjoy Nintendo games.
That isn’t meant to imply they can not be enjoyable. But there was a time when Nintendo made games that were way more complex than anything they have made in the last few years.
I literally said the exact opposite of the last panel.
Brainless fun is still brainless, regardless of being fun. The fun part was never in question.
Please give an example of a Nintendo game that you consider to not be “smooth-brained”. Because I’d argue that at least since the 90’s their games have had the same level of simplicity and hand holding. If anything, some of that was stripped back in the switch generation. A lot of the “complexity” and “difficulty” of their older games stemmed from developers not knowing how to make a game approachable or easy to understand because the gaming industry was in it’s infancy. And realistically, if you want to talk about complexity, Breath of the Wild or Tears of the Kingdom have physics and cooking systems that are far more complex than any of their old games. So what counts as a complex and challenging game for your massive wrinkled brain?
I’d argue that at least since the 90s their games have had the same level of simplicity and hand holding
What games in the 90s had tutorials that were not “here’s every basic obstacle in the game on the first level; figure it out?” One of the best video game tutorials of all time is World 1-1 in Super Mario Bros and it does it without even telling you anything.
A lot of “complexity” and “difficultly” of their older games stemmed from developers not knowing how to make a game approachable or easy to understand because gaming was in its infancy
By the time Nintendo started making video games, the video games industry was over 20 years old. Not to mention literally thousands of years of game design in the form of not video games that existed before video games.
Breath of the Wild or Tears of the Kingdom have physics and cooking systems that are far more complex than any of their old games.
We’re talking complexity of the challenges in the game; not the complexity of the programming that goes into it here. What would make it more complex and challenging to not be smooth brained is making the physics puzzles more challenging and the cooking system more than just selecting what you want to throw in the pot and getting a little cutscene of it cooking. It’s the difference between making potions in Skyrim vs making potions in Kingdom Come Deliverance 2.
The smooth brained entertainment comment was just referring to the Mario Galaxy movie.
“Nintendo fans are smooth-brained thesedays though. I dont think its console specific, it’s Nintendo specific.”
This looks to me like the person commenting suggests that Nintendo fans in general are smooth-brained.
Oops, I missed that and thought it was replying to the comment above it.
Man, I remember when the DS was the thinking person’s console of choice. Oh the art you could draw on it and send to others. Oh the traces of goatee.
Well, no shit.
I honestly expect better from the Guardian.
At least they’re discussing the problem.
Cause Jensen needs to keep buying weird jackets. Only way to achieve that is by selling GPUs to AI ghouls.
Gaming has been getting expensive long before the latest AI Fad started.
growing up in a 3rd world country, it has always been, specially when considering the language barrier since games were not translated into my language back in the day
Yeah before it was crypto and NFTs.
Businesses started acting like every product ever is a luxury product and people keep paying the higher prices.
The only way to get prices back down as to not buy them.and hope the little businesses survive long enough.
The only people with money to spend are the upper-middle class consumers. Incomes of 100K+. 60% of consumer spending across the USA comes from people in this bracket… and for people under 100K income, spending is going down. Only 18% of USA population makes this level of income…
Hence if you want to make money, you have to move your products up-market to appeal to people who have all the disposable income to spend. This trend is all over the economy. Travel, clothing, food, etc.
The days of appealing to the mass market of lower and middle class consumers, is over, because they are broke, so nobody gives an F about them.
Going forward it’s about fewer sales, but higher margin sales.
The days of appealing to the mass market of lower and middle class consumers, is over
It’s not over forever. We’ve had K-shaped recoveries in the past, which is why we have a name for it.
nobody is investing in the lower or middle classes. they are de-investing.
everyone is investing in the rich people. especially other rich people who are trying to grow their businesses.
That’s right now. The economy changes, and that investment is a response to how it’s changed. It will change back again. We’ve been here before.
The wealthy have become very easy to sell to. Disposable cash they dont think about and a tailored algorithm and wide variety of available designer drugs.
Do some ketamine, go on an amazon binge and book a holiday to Greece to see a band you barely like cause fuck it, world is burning and I want a good time.
Honestly we just need to move on and start doing our own things and try to get into a place of power to maybe shore up some of the wealth hoarding.
