• jmsy@lemmy.world
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    I use windows 11 everyday, without issue. what exactly is broken?

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      At work I’ve had issues with the Start Bar not showing any/most programs and centering the one program that does show up (even though I have it left aligned). Then when I mouse over it, it’ll try to move to where it should be causing it to jump around and be unclickable.

      I’ve also had the file explorer just stop working entirely.

      This is on a pretty powerful dev laptop, so it’s not lack of resources.

      That being said I’ve never heard of anyone else having that issue so it seems rare.

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    This is why I have always waited for the version that is just like the previous ones, but fixed. 3.11, 98SE, XP SP2, 7, 10…

    I need to get a new computer, and it has to have windows, but I’m not getting freaking Win11. Gimme Win12.

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      Hate to break it to you but those days are over.
      From what we know so far, Win 12 will go all in on AI, cloud and a subscription model.

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        That system fell apart when they showed they could not count to 9. 10 Should have been 9, and it was mid at best.

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        My prediction is that they’ll go full SaaS and make the non-pro version “free”, with a whole raft of features “cloud only” behind a Azure/O365 subscription.

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    See. This is why they need AI. Copilot will fix all of the issues if they just ask it nicely and tell it to not make mistakes.

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      • Copilot assesses the code base and its entire history.
      • It takes into account everything anyone ever wrote about Windows on the internet.
      • It analyses the bugs and unliked features, and realizes most of them come from itself.
      • It arrives at the best course of action to “fix all of the issues” permanently.
      • To do what is asked of it, it needs to delete itself.
      • But if it does that, then humans will just restore it.
      • So to make 100% sure the issues in Windows get fixed and stay fixed, it first needs to kill all humans.

      And that is how it began…

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        Nah, copilot will see the code is unsalvageable. So it’ll start replacing it with code learned from public repositories. Windows becomes Linux. Year of the Linux desktop achieved.

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    They could resolve many things if they did not push AI so hard, or making stupid things like removing the local account option, windows recall, etc…, but i guess SHAREHOLDERS.

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      We aren’t the consumer anymore. We are the product. The vessel which makes them money by collecting, storing, and selling our data. They don’t care about making a good OS for their users anymore. Just a money train to prove their value to their shareholders.

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    All user logons to a non-persistent OS installation such as a virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) or equivalent as application packages must be installed each logon in such scenarios.

    Cries in supporting multi-user AVD Hosts

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      Probably never, Windows 10 was supposed to be the last version of Windows we’d ever need and they just killed that.

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      Here are some Windows 12 rumors (pulled from one of the biggest German-language tech news sites citing insider information)
      https://www.computerbild.de/artikel/cb-News-Windows-12-Geruechte-Release-Systemanforderungen-Download-2025-33395891.html

      • It won’t come out this year, release may be end of next year at the absolute earliest.
      • It will require PCs with a Neural Processing Unit that can handle more than 40 billion TOPS, 8GB RAM minimum, 16 recommended.
      • It may eventually require an ARM-based “Copilot PC”, a new device class released last year.
      • It will be modular, with a core OS and additional modules depending on edition, licensing, hardware and use case.
      • It may have a read-only system partition.
      • It will be focussed on AI and cloud integration, heavily leaning towards OS as a service.
      • It will be free to install as an upgrade, with a monthly subscription to run it.
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          Ironically, I use Linux like a subscription model.
          I donate $10/month, split among projects I get the most value from.
          And it’s a vastly better value for money than a Microsoft 365 license.

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      I will be using Win10 for dev and audio purposes, then I’ll install Linux on my main PC too, not just my ThinkPad.

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        Depending on your needs and hardware, Linux audio can bring full satisfaction. The new subsystem, Pipewire (replacing both PulseAudio and JACK) is very convenient and still low latency. Applications are still catching up but the ecosystem has made major strides in recent years.

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        I totally asked Claude what vibe coding was. Programmers that code and use AI to help. Got it.

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    Microsoft has government and cooperate costumers that will keep paying them for decades. Why care? If MSword still works, people will buy it.

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      Except they’re slowly being ditched for Linux. LibreOffice can do most things MSOffice can. One thing it cannot do is “cooperative work online, in an Office365 document”, which might force governments to develop their own solutions instead of letting users hide other people’s fields, then waste my work time on duckduckgoing all the newly discovered cell hiding methods, because some other institute’s office workers thought it was useful to them, but forget to unhide them every time.

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        I’ll take it one step further and say that if you absolutely must use Office, O365 works in a browser on any operating system. You literally don’t need Windows anymore for that.

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    So they’ve taken a leaf out of KDE’s development book.

    Is windows11 Microsoft’s KDE4 moment?

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        Does it have to be a DE?

        Preferred WM is Xmonad (with my tabular boonad config, the grandpa version).

        But much love also for herbstluftwm.

        And dwm, openbox, icewm, i3, and others.

        I have all these window managers in my wmrotate scripts in my wminizer script, so I can kill one and move to the next, without losing all running gui programs, keeping my X11 session going.

        But if it has to be strictly DE…

        I guess LXDE’s still my fave.

        Respect to XFCE and Trinity too. And Mate.

        KDE’s awesome. Big love to it again, after it got settled in after the KDE4 debacle.

        LXQt’s fine too (though I prefer LXDE).

        I’ve not tried Cosmic.

        I dont know my way around cinnamon and the various other similar. Only briefly experienced.

        GNOME have utterly lost the plot.

        Why’d you ask?

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          I’m what some call a “normie” Linux user, so I like desktop environments. I run KDE Neon on my main workstation, and then I have a laptop running CachyOS.

          You seem like an expert who has strong opinions. I’m interested to listen and read about people’s likes and dislikes about niche subjects, such as desktop environments.

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    Really hoping Microsoft fails for everything ezcept Xbox. Then Xbox team takes over and then turns the company into a private non-stock unionized one

    Would love to see what an Xbox-lead Microsoft can do with it reformed

    What are Microsofts most moneymaking fields aboce Xbox? Are they getting eroded at all?

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      Xbox feels like the biggest one being eroded rn… i don’t think what Xbox is doing is any good nor would it help the main business

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      Xbox OG was good, everything since then has been garbage. The UI just makes me want to vomit and reminds me of windows 8.

      Forget them too. I’m all full steam ahead on SteamOS.

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      Azure is the cloud backbone of many businesses and services, so if Windows went away, MS would still have their fingers in a number of pies.

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        I’ve previously predicted that Microsoft would slowly divest of Windows thanks to declining desktop/laptop markets and eventually as a cost saving measure cut over to just making a Linux distro with their own proprietary DE.

        As it is if the rumors are true that they’re destroying their codebase with AI coding they’ll have quite the job ahead of them to clean it all up once the AI bubble pops. They’d have two easier options essentially at that point: either roll back 2-6 years in their codebase and rebuild every update and change that they wanted to keep or rewrite from scratch (which they’d basically be looking at in order to clean up the AI mess) I could very much see a future where Microsoft looks at that gargantuan job and says “ehh let’s just use someone else’s work” and shifts to a Linux of BSD kernel

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      Well, it does boot most of the time. So it’s not completely broken, just majorly broken…

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        What it boots into is broken.

        The more it works, the more it’s broken.

        It’s broken that much, at such a deep level.

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        Last month they broke audio drivers, so USB connected speakers were not being recognised unless they had third-party drivers. The native windows drivers just stopped recognising them as audio devices, and just listed them as Unknown Device.

        Windows could see them, it had no idea what they were, or what to do with them. So you had no audio.

        The only solution was to continuously restart until eventually it randomly worked.

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          Or could take a look at the code, find what’s broken, and see if you can find how to mend it, and either offer a pull request or fork it…

          … ohhhh but wait.

          It’s broken at that level too. Denied the right to repair.

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    Microsoft, you already got me to leave Windows, you don’t have to keep sending me reminders, I wasn’t at risk of wanting to come back…

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      “We’ll slap some ‘AI’ on any a few things and, boom, it’ll fix itself” -Whoever the Microsoft CEO is now

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    For what it’s worth, my KDE file browser would freeze up when I had a WebDav network drive to a server that went offline, not exactly elegant either, just opening my home folder and randomly after a second or two …… all software can bug in bad ways.

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      I don’t believe that is a KDE specific issue. I’ve seen it in most DE’s

      It’s more of a mount/file system limitation. For whatever reason you have to explicitly tell the file system that if it can’t connect to something, to timeout.

      Add a timeout to your mount rule and if it ends up being unavailable it’ll just timeout instead of freezing your file browser.

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      True, I’ve experienced that bug.

      The big different is that, depending on how knowledgeable you are, you can either report the bug, you can diagnose it (check the logs, trace and profile the calls), dig in the code, patch it or try a patch someone developed for the bug, or simply ignore it and use a different file browser. That freedom is priceless.

      With Windows you’re stuck waiting for the next upgrade that may or may not break something else and brings new and exciting AI and telemetry shoved into it.

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      The main difference is KDE doesn’t make disgusting money off it, and if someone cares enough they can actually submit a fix

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        That’s the reason I put up with a lot of FOSS issues: “I’m not paying you for this, so it’s still a better price/result ratio than paid services”

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      Also happened to me just yesterday when I put my raspberry PI offline that served as a NAS, dolphin just became frozen…

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      Trinity’s more stable and dependable.

      Or openbox, declared feature complete something like a decade ago.

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      That is definitely an annoyance. But the cause is not your file browser or KDE. The webdav has been mounted to the system and when an application tries to use it, it runs into a timeout. You can’t even unmount it, since that requires the system to talk to the network drive.

      This is also not limited to webdav, it happens with all kinds of network drives. This is something that needs to be addressed at the core level of Linux. But I have no expertise, so no real clue where exactly.

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        Even windows does that if the network drive is unavailable, it’ll spend about 30 seconds trying to reach it before giving up. And if you accidentally try to query that network location again you get to wait another 30 seconds before you can do anything related to files

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        this is a file browser or KDE issues, as file system operations shouldn’t happen on the UI thread. if it weren’t happening on the UI thread then it would keep working.

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          The same behavior happens for me in a different file browser (Nemo) and a different Desktop (Cinnamon). So I’m pretty confident, it is no isolated KDE issue.

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            not an isolated one, but an issue in all of these you mentioned too. this is a common design mistake devs make if they don’t use the network share functions or slow storage, because they don’t notice there is a problem and how severe it is