• walden@wetshav.ing
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    This is a meme community, so it’s time to get serious!

    This happened around 6 or 7 years ago. The company in question only has two work groups that are unionized – Pilots and Dispatchers. Mechanics, Flight Attendants, Ground Service, etc. are not unionized.

    Flight Attendants have attempted to unionize many times, but the vote always fails.

    The poster included in this post was for Ramp workers – the people who load baggage, marshal the planes into the gate, fill the potable water, etc. That vote ultimately failed, but these posters were only a small reason why. In my opinion, the biggest reason that other work groups don’t want to unionize (they absolutely can, nothing is stopping them) is profit sharing.

    Years ago the pilot union negotiated an extremely excellent profit sharing agreement, and it was negotiated for pilots only. Depending on the amount of profit for the year, employees can expect 10%-%20 of their yearly income paid in a lump sum. The company in question is typically very profitable (I can already see the “profit should be illegal” type of comments coming, but please spare me. I’m just trying to explain how it works).

    Over time, other work groups started to catch wind of how much profit sharing pilots were getting. Naturally this sparked talk of unionizing in other work groups, so in order to calm things down the company extended the same profit sharing to all workers, not just the pilots.

    This sort of reversed the desire to unionize for a lot of people (I disagree with them, but this is their thinking)… Now if the ramp personnel do unionize, they’d have to negotiate their own profit sharing as they would be excluded from the company wide payout. That’s not to say they couldn’t negotiate to keep the profit sharing, but the fear is real and people don’t want to lose the big fat checks that come almost every year.

    In summary, the workers aren’t unionized but the company pays a lot of money to them to keep it that way. Would they be better off long term if they unionized? Yes, of course. But this poster, as ridiculous as it is, is not the only reason that work groups aren’t voting in unions.

    Here’s a link to the AFA page talking about it a little bit https://deltaafa.org/news/profit-sharing-2025

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      Its crazy to me how short term so many people think.

      I mean basic logic dictates that the companies clearly know the union is the better option for you and worse option for them when they’re willing to give up concessions, and it should be similarly obvious that inherently, the concessions will never be equivalent to what you are losing in increased wages and protections from if you had made a union.

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        There’s also no accountability for companies and it has been like that for way too long. Look at Starbucks… some stores unionized so they just closed the stores and fired everyone. Completely illegal, but no consequences for the company. They succeeded in scaring the rest of the baristas, though, so mission accomplished.

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          We are so far from this when people choose to vote in a literal pedo fascist over boring neoliberal.

          There isn’t a chance in hell you get a pro workers president any time soon when the general population can’t tell the difference above, and somehow think the only rational choice is a “”““far left””“” socialist such as famously very socialist former DA Harris.

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    My union dues are about 800 a year, we’d be lucky to make only 10,000 less a year without the union, and have way less protections. Joining a union is one of the best investments you can make.

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    Delta knows their audience. Many pilots lean Republican and see themselves as rugged individualists that have made their own path. Meanwhile, the only reason they’re flying in many cases are socially funded training programs. Many from the military.

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    Remember, if your company is telling you how great something is, it is great for them, not you.

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      Right, if you ever see an poster or video anywhere, consider that the message was something someone felt was worth spending money on. And if it was a business, why would a business spend money unless it could somehow benefit its bottom line?

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    In my country uniona are not even a question. Qlso qe just had a meeting about annual salary adjustments and added benefits. And yes, it does cost me about 700 but we gain a lot lot more

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    With all the layoffs right now, it’s a great opportunity for unions to make people aware about them and how they can be beneficial.

    I wish unions were more active on LinkedIn, so that we could like and share their posts. Recent layoffs at Omnicom/IPG have led to people discussing unions in the advertising subreddit…

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      Utterly hellish. In the UK, which is very far from being a Utopia, this would be almost unthinkable. Real Black Mirror stuff. Sure, the companies may not want you to join the union, but to actively advertise against it is breathtakingly shitty.

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    Haha my Union Dues… 240/yr.

    Pay in the five years before the union…no increase. 20 years of union, pay up 100%.

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    Classic misdirection: compare dues to a toy instead of the extra pay, healthcare, and protections.

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      This is why corporate America wants our population uneducated and tuned out and hooked on AI slop and distractions.

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      Meanwhile, republicans have been trying to make video games illegal for over forty years now.

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    Scumbags. What the hell is this 'murkin propaganda? It’s like the whole country is unironically trying to become the Sith.