• Redacted@lemmy.worldEnglish
    754·
    2 days ago

    I see the ongoing slide into labelling anything mildy analytical as autistic is in full swing.

    • AstaKask@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      399·
      2 days ago

      Disability as a subculture or identity is just really cringe. Especially the deaf/blind organisations lobbying against curing childrens deafness/blindness.

      • dustyData@lemmy.worldEnglish
        33·
        2 days ago

        Not arguing here. But just want to point out that disability subculture usually arises as a survival response in the face of discrimination and segregation. Everyone has a need for community and a sense of belonging. When broad hegemonic culture rejects you and your presence, belonging is found in the one distinctive feature that is the cause for the rejection and the source of cohesion with your peers. See also gay subculture as a response to homophobia, US black culture as a response to racism, feminist sorority subculture in response to misogyny, etc. So it is not rare to see disability subculture as a response to ableism. These communities are very important for security and preservation of individuals. Just as everywhere else, security is always a trade-off with something else.

        • MotoAsh@piefed.socialEnglish
          12·
          2 days ago

          Support community? Great. Using it as an excuse or identity like many autistic people do? Cringe.

          You don’t see black people going around talking jive, and then going, “oh sorry, you see I’m black” when they catch a confused look…

        • TrueDahn@lemmy.mlEnglish
          17·
          2 days ago

          None of that changes the fact that lobbying against curing a child’s deafness/blindness when it can be cured is fucked up.

          Interesting how you chose to just not engage with that point.

      • MotoAsh@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        I’d say subculture is fine. A subculture doesn’t have to be bad or annoying. Identifying with autism is also totally fine. Recognizing kinship isn’t bad.

        Where it goes wrong is using it as an identity outright. “Sorry, I’m autistic” is just fucking more annoying after someone does something annoyingly autistic. Being autistic doesn’t mean you literally cannot learn good social behavior. By the time that is true, there is definitely something more serious than autism involved.

      • stray@pawb.socialEnglish
        71·
        2 days ago

        Obviously autism can vary between people, but it’s not something that’s wrong with me, and I wouldn’t want to cure it. I’m different than what’s widely considered normal, but in a way that I think is fine. It’s like having red hair or being transgender.

        • MotoAsh@piefed.socialEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          High functioning autism is a fine character trait to identify with. Though I seriously doubt someone who’s basically mute takes pride in their autism.

          • Tonava@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            31·
            1 day ago

            Autism still isn’t a disease though, you can’t “cure” it, it’s something we are. Even with the most disabled we should start with accepting them and offering the help they need, not just immediately label them as defected and try to erase who they are. Sure, let’s figure out ways to lessen the worst symptoms, but how about if we’d just stop discriminating first and see where that leads

            • MotoAsh@piefed.socialEnglish
              1·
              1 day ago

              Nowhere did I ever defend discrimination. I merely said some people do not have a form they’d likely be proud of.

              • Tonava@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                1·
                6 hours ago

                Sorry if I sounded like blaming you of something! The point I was trying to make was more about how many autists are ashamed of themselves because of discrimination; that maybe those with a more difficult type could be more proud if they were* treated better

                • MotoAsh@piefed.socialEnglish
                  1·
                  4 hours ago

                  I dislike pride in general. Nobody should take pride in anything literally inaliable, just like nobody should be shamed for it. They should be comfortable in their own skin and not made to feel lesser for sure, though pride? Ehh… It’s a dangerous, blinding emotion.

          • stray@pawb.socialEnglish
            31·
            1 day ago

            Nonverbal people are free to make up their own mind how they feel about it, but calling it “cringe” when people choose to come together over a shared identity and experience is extremely insulting.

    • El care ñá@feddit.clEnglish
      152·
      2 days ago

      Context is important. In this case, it wasn’t the place for that kind of analysis.

      • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
        8·
        2 days ago

        Although ironically it matches the meta-context perfectly (displaying signs of autism in an exam to detect autistism).

    • hansolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
      38·
      2 days ago

      To be fair, neither are reindeer IRL.

      Santa’s sleigh should be pulled by 8 murderous polar bears.

        • Fondots@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          That’s a map of the magnetic “dip” pole not the geomagnetic pole. They are slightly different things.

          I’m a bit out of my depth, so I’m not gonna try to explain the distinction because I don’t really understand it very well myself, it’s just a fun fact I picked up somewhere.

          But AFAIK, the geomagnetic pole is still supposed to be somewhere around Canada/Greenland

          Also, not for nothing, but those are two different map projections so with how things get distorted around the poles in the OPs map,it’s a little hard to directly compare them. Remember that with cylindrical projections the whole top edge of the map basically represents a single point (the geographic north Pole) so things are often a lot closer together than they may look on the map. Just from eyeballing the two maps as an amateur who uses maps more than the average person but doesn’t exactly study them, I wasn’t 100% confident that the dip pole wasn’t in one of those higher spots of the puffin’s range (it’s not, I confirmed on a couple other maps, but it’s closer than you might think just from casually looking at these two maps.)

  • stray@pawb.socialEnglish
    10·
    2 days ago

    Puffin

    Cormorant

    Arctic tern

    Common eider

    King eider

    White-tailed eagle

    Kittiwake

    Fulmar

    Snow bunting

    Northern gannet

    Sanderling

    Black guillemot

    Brünnich’s guillemot

    Little auk

    Arctic skua

    Long-tailed skua

    Ptarmigan

    Great northern diver

    Red-throated diver

    Glaucous gull

    Lesser black-backed gull

    Great black-backed gull

    Ivory gull

    Red phalarope (grey phalarope)

    Pink-footed goose

    Barnacle goose

    Brant goose

    Razorbill

    Turnstone

    https://oceanwide-expeditions.com/blog/22-enchanting-arctic-birds-and-their-most-fascinating-facts

    The website has pictures.

  • InvalidName2@lemmy.zipEnglish
    16·
    2 days ago

    Am I missing something? A few penguin references / associations with Christmas, sure I’ve seen that. But, at least in my part of the world, they’re not a major part of the lore – or am I having a moment?

    Either way, this can be easily explained: It’s called being inclusive. The last thing you want is a north pole versus south pole world wide Christmas turf war, best to extend an olive branch andlean into that diversity and inclusion metric for the good of the world’s children and the fate of humanity.

    • qualia@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 days ago

      In order to do that you’d need to get the branch from more temperate latitudes so in keeping with this thread here goes their approximate range:

    • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      I think it’s marketing overreach. christmas->snow->snow animals->penguins

      I do find it strange that there are less polar bears than penguins in Christmas decorations in NA

      • InvalidName2@lemmy.zipEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        Probably Coca-cola and its legal teams have some degree of responsibility for the minimal polar bear association.

  • Tja@programming.devEnglish
    111·
    2 days ago

    What has the north pole to do with Christmas? Santa lives in Rovaniemi, Finland. Jesus was born in the middle east. Presents are made in China. Your house is whatever it is, surely not on the north pole.

  • Captain_Buddha@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    2 days ago

    Aren’t they only called penguins because of their resemblance to the now extinct great Auk, a Northern pole bird? Which would justify the attachment to the North pole and Santa?