Remembering to look for and ignore folks with that telltale indicator has made the fediverse so much more enjoyable.
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I really need to get off .ml
My .ml experience:
- Have a different opinion
- Get banned for rule 2
- See what rule 2 is
- Respect other opinions
I’m pretty sure I’m banned from .ml.
Badge of honour.
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- see what rule 2 is
- wonder why that applies
Says the .World-ers
.world has its share of awful and part of why I rock piefed, but I chalk a lot of that up to essentially being the default instance.
You may not know this, but there is an option to block instances in the settings
Not the users though. I have .ml blocked, which means communities hosted there (therefore moderated by them) don’t show up. However I still have to read their tankie comments.
And for some, that’s absolutely the best solution!
To me, the fediverse is already pretty small so I don’t like blocking and making it smaller. So, personally, my compromise is to see everything but consider the source before responding etc.
(And judicious use of piefed’s user note system; good ol’ vomitty face for the unpleasant non .ml folks and a big ol’ smile for the sane seeming .ml peoples!)
Can one block all users from said instances too, or is that not possible?
.ml and .dbzer0
Both have proven themselves insufferable, biased, and all around plain toxic.
It’s good that you openly declare your bias and preconceptions this way 👍
Proving them right
Lmao
There is a specter haunting the fediverse 👻
Oh, look, it’s you.
It’s me, hi, I’m the problem, it’s me. At tea time, everybody agrees.
Smile for the cameras, you’re on air!
Lol, you think I’m the one with something to hide? Let’s do this in front of the class then - tell us the answer to the following question:
If a guard at a concentration camp during the Holocaust said that he was tired of people complaining about it, and justified himself saying, “the world doesn’t revolve around genocide,” that people needed to “move the fuck on,” and then accused anyone who criticized him of being a pedophile, would these be valid arguments?
Should be pretty easy for someone who’s not a Nazi to answer, right? I’m sure anyone reading it would have no trouble saying “no.” But for some reason, you can’t.
Never pretended I wasn’t anti-Nazi.
Hey, I’m employed and don’t have the time to dig into the lore. What did Lemminary say? Can you permalink it?
First they minimized genocide with:
Then they doubled down, comparing being pro- or anti-genocide with “liking waffles or pancakes” and said to “move the fuck on.”
You’re like the obnoxious person who chimes in with “Why do you hate waffles, huh?” when someone says they like pancakes. Move the fuck on.
Then, after I pointed out how abhorrent these things were, and they did nothing to deny that the exact same arguments could be used to justify the Holocaust, while also hurling a bunch of insults at me, I called them a Nazi. They responded by accusing me of being a pedophile.
Damn, and you still have to provide only a partial context? Only the bits that benefit you and make you seem like the victim, huh.
How about you share the parts where you relentlessly accuse me of being a Nazi? The part where you misconstrue what I’m saying and purposely fail to grasp my point? The part where I actually fight back by falsely accusing you to prove my point, by using the same tactics you used to accuse me baselessly?
You’re nothing but a mean girl, Katie.
I have nothing to hide. You’re putting words in people’s mouths and crying wolf. How about you share the entire context with the class instead? It’s easier if you don’t start spewing bullshit.
What context? That you said all those exact things about a different genocide? You really think that’ll make you look better?
You think it’s acceptable to supplant what I actually said in its original context with how you arranged it instead? See how both the post and the picture fit exactly with your behavior?
I always engage with Tankies, fuckin hate those guys and I want people to know it.
Love your stuff my friend! Keep fighting that good fight! Many an upvote sent your way.
I never know the difference between all these Lemmy instances and why some communities are full of insane people
Racist people hang out with racist people. Sexist people hang out with sexist people
People are absolutely fucking amazing at self segregation with out realizing it.
It’s actually pretty simple, they’ve inadvertently self segregated.
So the dudes who maintain the code for Lemmy, which is a framework that most of these instances are built off of, are what we call “Tankies” because they support the Chinese dictatorship, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, etc. They’re the “Communists” with emphasis on the quotation marks, so to speak. They oppose “Capitalist” countries which are any western nation that stands in the way of expansion. They oppose “Liberals” as they claim it’s a “Capitalist” ideology but actually because it’s the ideology of promoting human rights which conflict with their ideal form of government.
Now, I mentioned those dudes maintain the code, they also maintain the landing page where a lot of people are first exposed to a list of lemmy servers to pick from. Other frameworks are being developed right now so we can move away from Lemmy, such as Piefed which is the backbone for Piefed.social and Piefed.world but they’re still missing a couple of features.
For example the instance you and me are on, Lemmy.world , is also run by Piefed.world hosts but the lemmy.world allows attaching images to comments while Piefed.world lacks that functionality as of yet, though they did recently update to a new version. Our instance is one of many defederated from Hexbear and Stalingrad, which are the same Tankies as ML but with the masks off, they unapologetically promote Xi Jinping and Putin, so those users cannot interact with our posts or comments at all, but it still remains federated with Lemmy.ml sadly as that’s the lemmy instance where news about the framework and updates come from.
The reason why all of this is happening is because somebody is paying for it. Some lonely internet users in the west are funding a place to go, while some military regimes are funding it because it’s a psyop made to promote their goals and create radical infighting in the west. The fediverse is everything great about other social medias with less of the cons except for the fact that we completely lack the ability to defend it from hostile actors in ways that a large corporation with unlimited resources and centralized detection algorithms could (if they even would).
It really raises eyebrows when you come across users who have posted nothing but aggressively anti-US anti-NATO anti-EU stuff for several years straight. No other interests. Nobody talks about politics nonstop. Nobody. It’s straight up bizarre.
Lemmy ml even has a rule of “don’t call us Russian bots or we’ll ban you”
Well said. I can name quite a few that I’m sure everyone is familiar with.
How about you make it a central part of your life? Wouldn’t that be cool?
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Fuck! So .ml is not abbreviation for “Monster Lovers”?
just a different type of monsters!
I call them mega losers
Hell yeah dude, you’re 12
You know what’s funny is .ml was one of the first instances I signed up for. I thought it stood for machine learning or something to do with programming.
I knew it was a leftist instance. I went into it (naively) excited to engage with a more thoughtful leftist internet space, considering it was a bunch of reddit exiles who were upset about heavy handed Reddit censorship. I was quite disappointed to learn quickly that it was just more of the same tankie brain rot, with more of the same tankie censorship you can find in a thousand different tedious places.
Even then I stuck with it for a bit. And then I learned that the head admin was potentially the most fragile person on the Internet, who literally will not post outside his own instance because he cannot handle any internet where he does not have (what he believes to be) a “win argument” ban button. It is literally so cringe, I cannot stand to be associated with it, and I don’t understand how other people tolerate being associated with his antics.
MLs are essentially incapable of arguing in good faith. You know how Christians quote to bible to “prove” their religion is true? MLs are the political version of that.
… we don’t?
I literally can’t do what the meme suggests, because I’ve already blocked all users from that instance automatically.
You might try slrpnk.net for what you were looking for. I guess you know that by now, but in case anyone else is reading and thinking similarly.
I’ve got an ml account too, but at the time I think world was normal. I think world has also gone the Reich way.
wait, what does it stand for?
Technically it is the top-level domain name for Mali.
I’m fairly certain that the Lemmy devs chose it because of their two favorite socialists/communists: Marx and Lenin. But I can’t find a reference to that right now.
Nah, they chose it because the ccTLD along with few others had been free for a long time. I was there when lemmy was just a few months old.
Someone made up these reference about marx/lenin claim and was perfect for wankies to circle jerk and the tankies didn’t refute it or went along with it, so it stuck.
Before that the free domains were mostly used for spam/phishing (because it was free), some called it machine learning, my links, my library and so on.
https://dev.to/bauripalash/lets-get-your-own-free-domain-5f16
Marx was a socialist political philosopher, that helped define the social end goal of communism. Lenin was a militant revolutionary that thought he could ignore Marx’s slow natural social evolution to communism. And force it under authoritarian boot heel. He was aspirationally communist at best, but not communist. His ideology has failed to achieve it everywhere it was tried. Generally, creating a new class of Petit Bourgeoisie or even collapsing into open fascism.
Other than that you are correct. Lemmy.ml hexbear.ml and lemmygrad.ml all chose the Mali TLD because of the abbreviation.
Just like .TV domain is actually Tuvalu but Twitch and other livestreaming sites use it as abbreviation. These countries actually make a lot of money from selling top level domains like that.
Yes though I thought I remembered reading something a few years ago about them reclaiming them. But hard to turn down money.
Mutilated Leprechauns
You just reminded me of Ween’s masterpiece album, ’ The mollusk’
Moron liberation
Marxist Leninist
Maoist Lemmy
They use it to mean Marxist Leninism, although it also does mean Machine Learning and Mali
i’m a leftist and have an ml acct. but it’s like there is no engagement or linking or such - i dunno. i’m a newb.
You’d be hard pressed to find many on the fediverse that aren’t some flavor of leftist.
But yes. A lot of instances defederated from the .ml ones for the same reasons ml were generally blocked and banned from similar sites in the past. Which ironically led to the start of Lemmy and the link aggregation portion of the fediverse in the first place.
Depends if you consider liberals to be leftists.
No, it does not. That’s just a popular way for MLs to disregard any opinion they don’t like. “Liberal” is to online MLs as “woke” is to conservatives. The Fediverse is packed with Anarchists, Socialists, Communists, and Leftists that don’t fit neatly into a category and that’s not even arguing about whether social democrats and democratic socialists count.
A lot of instances defederated from the .ml ones
Last time I checked, infosec.pub was the only instance of any nontrivial size (319 users / month) that was defederated from lemmy.ml.
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I was wondering why so many tankies dominated that instance.
ML meaning “Marxist-Leninists” makes so much more sense now.
What a bunch of assholes.
it actually stands for country of Mali but tankies are right there engaging in imperialism and failing to see the irony lol
The best part. ML losers got the domain because “paying 5$ a year for TLD is capitalism!” and then in 2023 free .ml domains were discontinued because surprise surprise - it was a stupid idea lmao
What a bunch of mega losers lemmy.ml is.
Honestly these kinds of posts don’t bother me. I’m usually on here answering people’s tech questions or trying to provide useful resources to people. If they don’t see it because they have ml blanket blocked then that’s their loss.
Yeah, there are plenty people who ended up there early when they’re weren’t many other options. Or just didn’t know. Though it’s your loss as well. Cut off from several instances for the behavior of others. It definitely sucks.
Sure, but seeing posts like this encouraging discounting other people based on the instance they signed up on doesn’t make me want to switch instances so I can spend more time with them. Posts like these make it harder to care about what I’m missing tbh.
If we’re missing more animosity like this thread then we’re probably not missing much at all.
Cut off from several instances
which instances?
US liberals are so upset when they hear anything to the left of AOC.
Pretending that Marxist-Leninists have Leftist beliefs is cute. That workers have no self-determination and have to tow the party line under threat of violence is the dead giveaway
Ah yes. Telling Ukraine that they should “stop fighting so people stop dieing” is being left of AOC and not Russian propaganda. We at ml are just peace absolutists, it’s just a coincidence that our peace absolutism somehow involves just giving everything to Russia.
Pretending Russia, China and NK are flawless just because they’re (former) communist countries isn’t left of AOC, it’s just plain idioicy and propaganda.
US Liberals are upset when they see anyone further left than Ronald Reagan
It won’t matter in the end. Their shitty Colombus Epoch is coming to an end
(´･ᴗ･ ` ) me like these posts, i can find so many people to block
For sure! I did that once when I was new here, it went sideways.
