TikTok users have been deleting the app at a higher rate since the company announced that its U.S. operations would be housed in a new joint venture.
The short-form video platform’s daily average app uninstalls in the U.S. have increased nearly 150% over the past five days compared with the previous three months, market intelligence firm Sensor Tower told CNBC.
Lmao amount of ppl defending TikTok in the comment is funny af
I will defend TicTacs to my dying day!!
Not surprising, since you’d need tp be willfully ignorant to have used tiktok when it first came out with all the privacy concerns even back then with the app doing weird things.
And those who use it despite that are pretty addicted to the content on it. They in the same category as those that continue to use twitter.
I remember when tiktok was getting blocked. People got pretty riled up that they didn’t have access to their propaganda app anymore.
hahahaha that’s a good one. they all are so addicted they will reinstall it in a week.
My life has only gotten worse since getting addicted to forums and social media. I’ve become much less productive as well. Feels bad :(
I find it funny that millions of people had no problem with an evil foreign government like the CCP, that’s well known for collecting data for military purposes and spending mind boggling amounts on propaganda campaigns, controlling the app, but now draw the line at some Silicon Valley billionaire doing essentially the same thing.
I never liked the short content format so I never had an interest downloading TikTok, but I knew that I would never, ever download it when I learned that this Chinese app is actually banned in China. They a have a separate clone of this app that’s exclusive to China that uses a different algorithm that promotes positive and educational content. The fact that billions of people use this shitty weaponized piece of Chinese spyware is depressing, especially when the Fediverse exists.
Well for starters - The United States government is kicking in doors in my local area right now.
The CCP would have to travel many thousand miles to kick in my door.
That’s a false sense of security. The CCP doesn’t need to kick down your door to weaponize your data. It should be common sense to not trust an authoritarian regime.
OK, as an American in the USA, what is the worst China can do to me with my “weaponized data” that is worse or the equivalent of me being tracked down and summarily executed a death squad which is the worst thing that the Trump regime can do with my data (which every US corporation is willing to hand over to them). It’s not that I trust the Chinese government. I just don’t care about them right now because my country is being destroyed by Nazis and find it bizarre that anyone would still be trying to sell us the “beware the Yellow Peril looming in the east!” neoliberal cold war horseshit.
Remember in the 80s when scary Japan was supposedly about to morph into some sort economic singularity and wipe us out with a thousand ultra mega Pearl Harbors all at once? Kind of reminds of the shit we hear about China today.
You know back then it was perfectly fine to be cozy with PRC while they supported the Khmer Rouge’s genocide just because they invaded our arch enemy, Vietnam, to our infinite delight. Funny how the propaganda shifts like this depending on who’s befitting from it…
You can’t worry about your taxes when your house is on fire man.
Your horse were not on fire when TikTok got introduced en masse.
So yeah, look for excusses
It’s been on fire a long time buddy.
yes you can, if tomorrow you’ll be thrown in jail for your taxes
You’re missing the point.
China might use your data and hurt you in some far future, whereas the USA will use your data right now in a direct and violent way.
I can explain how the US government having access to the database of all of TikTok’s data might directly result in a visit from ICE. The path to damage caused by China may exist too, but is much more nebulous, and much more difficult for China to execute on.
Yes, if you are in a government position, or in the army, you probably shouldn’t use TikTok under China’s management. But Joe Schmoe from California has little to materially fear from them. But he does have reason to fear the USA government who might well come over and arrest him.
Based on recent evidence, maybe the CCP > US Government.
that does not make them good, but fortunately we don’t have to accept either, right?
Respectfully, the CCP has been less of a direct threat than the US government as of late and most dont trust the government so why would they trust the propaganda? This isnt to say the CCP isnt a problem but are they as much of a direct threat to American citizens than ICE and such?.. ICE has now murdered more than one citizen in cold blood.
P.S. People need more education as to what the Fediverse is but until then they will always go with whats easier to use and access.
and most dont trust the government so why would they trust the propaganda?
because visually it’s not coming from the government but “independent content creators”. and regardless of who says it, people will trust propaganda that says things they want to hear, then over time, start trusting those who say that
That’s such a nonsensical take. Because you don’t trust the US government, you’re go to thought is to hand over your data to an opaque authoritarian regime like the CCP? What kind of a bullshit false dichotomy is that? Fuck that, my data is my data. It doesn’t belong to any government, corporation, or anybody who isn’t me or someone that I explicitly give consent to use my data. That’s the principled take.
No, I am just explaining to you why people have used it. Humans do human things… being upset at it wont change the why. Citizens are terrified of the current threat. Not one miles away. Humans are wired to react to immediate danger.
evil forefinger government
Okay well first that typo is staying, second I used to be minorly involved in politics (by which I mean fundraising for a homeless shelter feels and smells a lot like politics even if your goals are more altruistic) and I learned one valuable thing. The right thing morally and the right thing politically are rarely the same, and when it looks like they are you should investigate closer and reevaluate because you’re probably missing something important. That’s why government is almost always evil.
China was spying on me in case I had any useful state secrets. America is spying on me because they are actively exploiting every data point in my life for profit and control.
I always thought those who believed their data was safe because the app was China based was dumb, since Google showed that they’d comply with the Chinese government to operate in the country years ago.
So why would yet another billion dollar seeking app be different because of it being a different country when they are just as financially motivated to not protect your data but make money off you.
Google showed that they’d comply with the Chinese government to operate in the country years ago.
Google refused, as a consequence, are blocked by the Great Firewall. Microslop bent the knee and continues to operate until China gets an alternative going.
Worse than spying - manipulating politics and social cohesion. Many teens have died (example: pass out challenge), right-wing governments have almost been elected out of nowhere (Romania) and mentally ill people have been preyed upon heavily.
Worse than spying - manipulating politics and social cohesion.
Which could also be manipulation. Young TikTok watchers are only a fraction of the voters. The change in outcome could mainly be driven by excluding the right-wing candidate from the second election.
I wish I could be part of this 150% but I’ve never used TikTok
Vine used to be so fun and simple.
That was fucking eons ago.
Its replacement has so many issues on many levels.
That because Vine was designed to be fun and simple. Users only had 7 seconds to make a memorable video, and so people got really creative with it. You can’t possibly convey anything of value in such a short duration, so people just the platform for fun.
psst hey kids. wanna try out some fediverse?
They use social media in hopes of becoming influencers themselves to get the bag, or follow big influencers because they have a huge emotional attachment to them.
I don’t think fediverse is going to have appeal because they aren’t in it just to have a site to have conversations or see material.
The very foundation of it having to be where the most visible and popular people are is the whole draw of social media for them. Not pseudoanonynous usernames posting comments.
Let them form their video version while we keep our text and I’ll have one less shit to flip
Don’t we have that?
fuck if i know i’m a texto
Pixelfed I think? Though it’s developed by the same guy as whatever the Instagram clone is called so it’s been kind of slow to become usable?
Everyone will probs be back in a few days anyway
My siblings were debating issues with it and about how willing they were to just deal with it.
I’m just shocked at how addicted everyone is to it that it could probably say “Trump is watching all users’ front cameras while the app is open” and kids would still be like "hmmm what are the odds he watches me though?
But everybody’s a zombie.
I mean I downloaded it, back really early, to take a peek. After 15 minutes, I decided I hated the short format, and peaced out.
It seems to largely be a generational thing. Millennials are (in my perception) mostly on it just to make money, zoomers just want that crack IV drip.
Obviously this is just a trend, and there are counter examples everywhere, but that seems to be more true than not. At least from the outside looking in.
And given it’s totally obnoxious censorship rules, now I have to deal with hearing about people getting “unalived”, or “adult fun time”, and “p 3 dee oh” from creators that multistream. Even without being there, I’m forced to experience the cancer secondhand.
That’s my main problem with it. None of the other problems affect me directly much since I’ve always avoided it, but that is smeared all over my shit.
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Yeah exactly. 150% is good. 1500% would be better.
100% of users is best
600 per cent of users
I feel old every time I share that I’ve never installed TikTok and don’t have an account.
In many ways, I feel a bit like I am still forced to ambiently and peripherally use the app when interacting with the rest of social media and society. Because the damn format, and culture, and way of thinking and producing videos has seeped so deep into all aspects of our lives.
The whole mode of consuming media in an algorithmic flipbook like that weirds me out. I don’t understand how anyone can enjoy being enticed to watch videos in the way TikTok promotes.
I feel you on that. Even not being on xyz social trend of the day you still get exposed to the mentality of it by the people that are. To some extent that’s fine, but it can get old really quickly.
I don’t want to doom scroll all day and night. I don’t want to socialize on media and follow people or have followers. Random people are not my entertainment. I don’t need my phone in my hand 24/7.
My take is that I will live my life by my culture. If people see me be me and follow my example, great. If people think I’m a weirdo, oh well I’ll just go do my own thing.
I don’t feel old.
I just feel correct and justified in never installing a foreign weapon which exposes every contact, photo, nearby device, and message to an evil dictatorship that wants us all dead in a fire (up to 2 dictatorships now).
Yeah, I strayed away from tiktok and before that facebook, instagram, Twitter. Social media that encourages many users to forgo their privacy and share their faces and voices just always seemed like red flags.
Tiktok was lit until late 2020, when they really started clamping down on subversive content at the behest of the US.
If you are uninstalling, you can try the federated alternative: loops
I downloaded it. It’s very barren right now, no more than a few comments per post, if any. Hopefully it gains some traction
It was like that here when Reddit
fellcaused people to leave and look for something better. Give it time, and interact!It’s still kinda like that here.
I think its mostly because of lurkers, but also, I first joined on midwest.social then something broke the feed and caused a bunch of federation issues. Now this is my “alt” but I can’t see content from piracy@dbzero or whatever now
lemmy.world had blocked and then unblocked a bunch of piracy communities two years ago, that community being one of them
But it looks like lemmy.world is currently not federating that piracy one specifically, maybe I missed another announcement
I know it sucks but you’ve just gotta shitpost through it. No comments? Guess you gotta generate some content. We are the algorithm, and we are the bots, here on fedi.
Think of it as an exclusive club where your content has a higher chance of being seen by elite users
Kinda like fediverse in general. That’s the price of a non-corpo platform
ive poked around on there over the past year or so. not much to see and often quite broken.
It must be really demanding in terms of hardware and network to host video content like tiktok. I wonder if the fediverse voluntaries will be able to keep up with it if the userbase grows too much
Cool to see how much loops has grown even just in the last year. It gets more and more viable as an alternative all the time. Love seeing the fediverse continue to grow
Oof, this still isn’t up on F-Droid or either main app store. That’s a shame, I thought this moment would be a great time for Loops to get some user base, but it seems like it’s still not ready for wider adoption.
That said, it does look a lot better now than it did a few months ago when I last tried it. Here’s hoping it picks up some momentum. I finally tried TikTok last year, and was really impressed by the breadth of videos and how quickly it was able to start showing me things I enjoyed. With the recent change in ownership, I don’t know that I’ll revisit it much if at all. Would take quite a lot to replicate even a little bit of the zeitgeist TikTok had going. But like with Lemmy and Mastodon/Bsky, I’m hoping I can do my little part by choosing where to put my attention. Just don’t know that I’m going to find much there I care to see, for now.
I like it 😃
wait, so chinese spying is fine, but american spying is not? So why are so many people on faecesbook then?
Are you not aware of the people who shit on facebook? I think most reddit and reddit to lemmy users hate Facebook.
Head to pcgaming, pcmasterrace, steam deck subs and you’ll also see hate for Microsoft. Partly due to copilot, hate of online account being pushed, and being spyware.
Same for Google too with them being seen as a company that is spying on everyone which is why roms like GrapheneOS gets brought up.
Now usage is still high partly due to some people’s dependency on it for productivity, but criticism and hate is there. Even China and Russia is stuck using Microsoft among regular consumers despite them having the most reason to not trust US software.
unlike us here, people on feacesbook and instagram never sh*t on suckerberg?
Good. Fuck TikTok.
