blaming? shouldnt they have celebrated how much people utilize their beloved slopmachines?
These things need to grow from grassroots.
That reminds me, 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0.
lol I still have a screenshot of Digg from when every article on the home page had this key in it.
Straight off to jail with you!
For those who don’t remember this- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy
They should bring back google circles
OH NO! But how? They resurrected Kevin Rose for this! /s
They’re doing it wrong. Use crypto for login and charge user for every single resource used. Problem solved
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Honestly, the first rebirth as a run-of-the-mill article aggregator was better. A lot of it I’d have already seen elsewhere, but occasionally it’d have something interesting that I missed.
Whatever they do, they’ll still be riding the name of a very dead horse.
Nah it sucked. I was on it. It was just lemmy but with less features and with less content. It was dead the moment it started because it did nothing.
I don’t understand how they even think it could succeed.
I didn’t even know it relaunched. They should have advertised it better. I would have checked it out had I known it was coming back.
I paid 5 bucks for a founder badge. I’ve spent more on poorer decisions but that only reduces the sting a little.
Yeah, same. What I found weird is that they couldn’t even send a freaking message. No “hey, we’re shutting down”, and I guess some people will be annoyed because they lost their saved stuff.
When the Digg beta launched, we immediately noticed posts from SEO spammers noting that Digg still carried meaningful Google link authority. Within hours, we got a taste of what we’d only heard rumors about. The internet is now populated, in meaningful part, by sophisticated AI agents and automated accounts. We knew bots were part of the landscape, but we didn’t appreciate the scale, sophistication, or speed at which they’d find us. We banned tens of thousands of accounts. We deployed internal tooling and industry-standard external vendors. None of it was enough.
I love how the SEO industry pretends they’re anything but a caustic cancer leeching off literally everything.
“Oh, but discoverability of small business!” Yeah… I’d punch you if I saw you, SEO jerks. The Futurama movie was right.
SEO is like CGI. What you don’t like is bad CGI. What you don’t notice is good CGI.
There’s many abuses of SEO and many ways it’s used quite badly. What you don’t notice is when it’s done very well. It’s one reason that these days, a large part of the time the thing you search for is on the first page of results. If you know how to search well, SEO helps you find the things you’re searching for.
I know people will disagree and probably ridicule, but i’m not talking out my ass. I’ve been on the internet since 1994, and I remember a time when finding things involved sometimes scouring mange many pages of search results. SEO is one reason that’s less common. And I will say that search did indeed reach a peak and has come down a bit from there thanks to AI bullshit and things like Google’s bullshit about returning ads and prioritizing revenue over usefulness. But it’s still better with SEO than it was without.
Add that to the fact that best practices for SEO has of course changed over the years in ways that have also gotten better for end users in finding content.
And this is again not a full defense of SEO at all. There are many MANY bad actors out there trying to abuse SEO. But, again, that’s the bad SEO that you notice, not the good SEO that you do not notice. So THAT part of the “SEO industry” is absolutely caustic cancer, sure.
Fuck that, bring back boolean operators!!!
Absolutely 100%. It is so frustrating to search for a couple of terms and have the search engine just ignore one or two of them, like no your stupid AI does not understand what I actually want please just give me what I fucking asked for.
¿Por qué no los dos?
SEO is one reason that’s less common.
No it isn’t. SEO is about gaming the search engines to place their data ahead of everything whether relevant or not.
Yahoo was fantastic in it’s time because it was human curated. No SEO could bullshit a person reading the page and categorizing it.
Google was fantastic at the start because SEO couldn’t game the system. Google was famous in the early days for maintaining quality by keeping their algorithms secret and constantly changing so that SEO couldn’t break their search.
I’m speaking as someone who was first on the Internet in the 80’s.
No, you’ve got a point… Actually you’re right. To an extent.
I should have qualified my post.
But I’d argue the “bad” part of SEO is just too tempting. It’s clearly winning out, across the entire internet, unless you can look at me with a straight face and say “Google search is fine.” Or that discoverability of genuine services is fine. It’s definitely not; it’s a miracle any legitimate business is surviving from web search anymore, amongts the sea of attention scams and corporate behemoths.
In other words, the I feel like the “honeymoon” where we could trust SEO to happen ethically is now behind us.
You also have a point. HOW DARE WE AGREE. :)
Well, except that I think that - to a decent extent - the changing requirements for SEO generally have still improved it. I’m comparing to the days of keyword stuffing, which doesn’t work anymore, for example. Nowadays, it does have to be text that flows and is somewhat natural.
THAT said, I will myself point to recipe sites that give you a novel before the recipe for SEO purposes. I’m certainly not saying it’s perfect by any means.’
Which Futurama movie so I can rewatch?
Bender’s Big Score, the first one. I was thinking of the scammer aliens, who have that same attitude SEO folks tend to carry.
Drink Coke.
The majority of “new users” was bots twenty years ago. How was this news to these chuckleheads?
I mean it’s worth saying that the new bots are kind of a different league to the old bots.
Yeah, so it REALLY SHOULDN’T BE A SURPRISE
But now bots pass captcha and use a real browser. So… it’s not easy removing them.
And the majority of posts were mrbabyman.
well duh, reddit/X/Insta, MEta,etc is infested by AI BOT/bot spammers for a while to spread propaganda or do things like promote links of OF, or other businesses. thats the other reason why they are very ban heavy as of late. diggs or any other platform would suffer the same fate.
Hey now let’s be fair, not all of it is AI propaganda. Some of it is shrimp Jesus. Mind you that also started as propaganda but it’s since devolved into something so much more fascinating, namely because how the fuck do you even get to shrimp Jesus.
Dead internet
theoryrealityI tried using it and was kinda hopeful, but NSFW was against their TOS which is a no go.
Prude and ambicious. Executives these days…
RIP lemmynsfw.
It’s back as an archive and a new instance though.
What’s the new instance? I must have missed it.
Not on my wholesome christian server /s
*Holesome 😏
People are naive to think there aren’t also thousands of bots here in the Fediverse.
The only thing keeping the bot population low here is that there just aren’t enough people here to be worth it yet. If the Fediverse grows they’ll come in greater numbers.
The Fediverse has a lot more safeguards in place, in particular the ability to require a message to register an account, such as my instance requires, weeds out 99% of bots.
We can also defederate from instances that are become overwhelmed from bots if they have lax sign-up requirements (which has already happened a few times), which vastly limits their ability to take hold.
The bigger problem for us, I think, is the fight against not scrapers. Anubis is keeping them at bay for now, but it will likely be an ongoing cat and mouse game until the AI bubble bursts.
It’s also not as SEO-gameable (since fediverse domains are inherently more fragmented than a large, high-reputation domain for SEO algorithms to rank highly), and doesn’t have an inherent monetization system (unlike platforms like Twitter with their ad payouts), so that’s a couple more things going for us.
The only time I’ve even seen the fediverse pop up in a search was when I was doing some black magic nonsense getting Linux to do what I wanted. Yes it was a Linux community no it didn’t help.
As expected. Did you find a vBulletin message board from 25 years ago with a specific solution tho?
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For someone who likes digging around in my Reddit history you’d think you’d be able to find something that was actually relevant to the topic at hand. That was a comment about the uses of agentic coding tools for making custom applications, not about building bots.
Yeah, well, I judge you for participating in all those scat and cuck subreddits.
DISCLAIMER: This is a joke. I haven’t stalked them on reddit. Just being silly and want that to be clear. :)
Stop being a weirdo or go start a tech company so your behaviour is at least expected.
Fuck the anti-AI crowd is getting extreme. So much harassment and doxxing going on by these losers.
And it’s not even relevant, using an LLM to vibecode apps is completely different to using LLMs to make posts on social media. Just blind rage.
This particular user is a special kind of one. Once you make the wrong noises about something they don’t like, they make it their personal mission to start digging for anything even remotely looking like dirt that they can sling your way - as they’re now demonstrating below.
I couldn’t imagine being that bored.
It’s linked in his public profile.
Edit: Speaking of blind rage, I hope you downvoted this accidentally…
If there are, theyre not very active
I’ve been noticing a lot more definitely-AI-generated “blogposts” and full-on ads in my Mastodon hashtag feeds.
It’s a fairly new thing.
75% of the accounts I’ve had to ban in the roughly-two-years since I spun up my instance have been AI slopfaucets that popped up in the last 2 weeks.
I wonder if there is any inherent defence against slop on Lemmy. I guess if an instance doesn’t prune it’s user base of bots, shills and other slop merchants, it could be black listed by other admins of other instances.
No, but there is on PieFed.social. Mods and admins have functionality to check any post or comment for LLM-generated text. There’s more stuff too.
Generally I share my findings with Lemmy admins so they can ban the account.
I think this is a pretty big threat to the fediverse and social media in general and am taking it very seriously. At the moment the amount of slop is pretty low but we need to be ready for the deluge when it comes.
check any post or comment for LLM-generated text
Presumably with about the same tools that gleefully give false positives when checking school assignments.
This may come as a surprise to you so brace yourself.
I am not stupid.
Well, firstly, I’ve seen the Piefed code.
Secondly, I doubt it that you have some magical accurate AI-detection tools, and Digg and Reddit don’t.
Your AI detection tools are really helpful, thanks for all your hard work.
My instance bans non-consensual AI content and users. Rimu’s tools have made that a lot easier to do, I get an alert when the system detects a possible AI user.
Their tolerance of racism and bigotry was why I left
It seemed like every shitty person wanted to make it a far-right safe place
I’m glad it failed
There was once a reddit alternative, namely voat, that started normal and became the most alt right incel qanon thing imaginable. Here’s a dataset with voat data and posts https://arxiv.org/pdf/2201.05933v1
those were the bots
I had interactions with a few, and they were very much the typical, stupid, bigoted yank
it’s crazy how you used the word bigoted and a slur in the same sentence.
Is it a slur if these people are proud of it?
yes.
it’s no different than calling an Italian a wop or a chink for an Asian.
Where’s the slur?
yank is short for Yankee, which was a slur used for Americans during the revolutionary war.
It’s also used by Americans generally in the NorthEast of the USA. Hell, your most popular baseball team (based out of New York City) is named them.
I don’t know a single Newfie who would be upset calling them a Newfie. I’m Canadian. Do you think I’d take offence to being called a Canuck? That’s generally used for Western Canadians. I life in Nova Scotia. I couldn’t care less because I’m not 10-ply soft.
It’s crazy how little I value your opinion
you valued my opinion enough to respond. I’d say that’s enough.
