They’ve got a bunch of folding chairs and tables, telecomm equipment, and no company name. Found them using our guest Wifi to access a bunch of scam sites and banks in other countries.
OP? Where are you? It’s been a day, we are waiting for further input on your part.
My wife sent information to the building owner. Her boss contacted the FTC. Will see if anything happens
I think this is a FBI thing.
You could start with calling the police?
Highly unlikely the police are even going to care. Unless they give me confirmed that these guys are actually doing something illegal. And even then the police may not actually care. The better bet would be to call somebody like the FBI who actually has a scam division. Of course that was before Donald j Trump became current president of the United States who by the way if you didn’t know also raped children, along with his best friend Jeffrey r epstein.
Why are you assuming that they’re in the US
Because they ask for location dependent help without mentioning where they are from in the non localized AskLemmy. Easier to assume and in the 1% case of not being right you might receive a reply with the actual country. Same as asking for it and waiting for a reply, but worse in 99% of the cases.
I have called the police 5 times in my life. Once when someone broke into my car, once when someone broke into my home. Twice when someone was illegally dumping trash on the side of the road, and once qhen a scammer intercepted an 18,000 dollar check. In the 3 cases of theft/B&E i was told there was nothing they could do and given a paper record of what happened to give to my insurance. In the cases of illegal dumping(I was following the people and providing liscense plate number) i was told “we dont handle that, call the county and they will come clean it up”
The police, at least in my area, are fucking worthless. They exist solely to give tickets and fines, while do little to nothing to acrually combat crime or enforce law.
Most ridiculous call ive made was an attempted suicide.
A guy had set up in a local coffee shop, and was going to drink a quart of latex paint, which he planned to wash down with a pint of paint thinner, to prove the paint was nontoxic.
So I called and asked them to send police and ems down to help help stop a suicide. The dispatcher said she wasnt sure suicide was against the law. I told her that it was, it still counted as murder in our jurisdiction. She remained dubious and also wasn’t sure that drinking paint would be lethal. I pointed out drinking a pint of paint thinner definitely was.
Finally I changed tack; i said that when this guy went into convulsions, he was sure to make a mess of the floor of the buisness he was in, between the spilled and the vomited paint, and that most assuredly violated destruction of private property laws.
Her entire demeanor changed. She responded brightly with 'oh yeah, you should have led with that, ill have officers and emts at your location within 10 minutes!
Here they’re pretty great with welfare stuff.
Once my neighbour warned me about robots with lasers invading or something, and was talking to someone who didn’t exist.
I called the po-po, who showed up and talked him into going to the emergency department with them.
I bumped into his mum a few weeks later and she thanked me for calling the police. She said he’d been having a psychotic break or something.
Thats the thing, our cops tend to be pretty solid about community oriented stuff. We’re also a wealthy vacation town (think like the hamptons) which tends to help.
If i lived in a community where that was not the case, I would have tried dealt with this through other means. Like I said, the moment I moved this outside, a beat cop happened by and immediately recognized a situation and moved to help, not threaten with violence or arrest.
The issue here was the dispatcher, who, to be fair, was a gal who I went to school with, and was… not the best critical thinker.
The university cops are great where I am but the city cops are very hit and miss. The university cops were my backup for violent patients when I worked the medical center and they actually had pretty decent deescalation skills. At the very least they would just defer to me and standby assist unless I specifically told them to initiate a hold. And when they were doing standbys they wouldn’t verbally threaten or physically impose they’d just stand loosely at my shoulders and be like “hey buddy we’re just here to keep everybody safe.” Vs the city cops are only allowed on the unit long enough to serve involuntary admission paperwork like “hey here’s your copy of the form signed by the magistrate that says these nurses can’t let you off the unit.” Which is good because they’re like 25% decent, 25% matter-of-fact (acceptable), but like 50% are assholes.
Like some patients are super entitled, yelling racial slurs, spitting, etc and I understand it’s difficult to keep your composure if you’re not specifically trained to (although they really should be) but a lot of patients are clearly just not with it. Like either wildly delirious and rambling about alien conspiracies or just straight up visibly developmentally delayed. And I’ve seen officers talking shit to people with like obvious high needs autism, downs, etc and the best I can do is just tell the cops to give them the paperwork in the mousetrap and hurry the patient inside but like. What the fuck.
It’s kind of cute though when you get a new one who just recently got the job to Help People™ so they’re not a bastard yet and this is one of their first experiences with a psych hold and they’re standing there with their body cam on having just unlocked the cuffs and the patient just immediately yanks their pants down and starts screaming about the invisible snakes and spiders on their genitals and the baby cop just 😦
And then the paint thinner laughed, the latex paint laughed, the coffee laughed……
But did he drink the paint?
We were able to stop him. I convinced him to step outside for a cigarette with me, while we continued talking. He was still talking pretty manicaly, which attracted the attention of a cop on foot, who helped me talk him down until ems arrived.
Yeah I hear the “you’ll be glad they exist when you need them” over and over but the 3 times I needed them they completely let me down. Government thugs is all they are.
I don’t know what Trump and Epstein have to do with this…? But thanks for the unhelpful reply.
Well if you didn’t realize that Donald j trump, current president of the United States, who also is a child rapist and best friend of Jeffrey r epstein. Is the current head of the government in which the FBI is a part of and has helped corrupt that organization by allowing fellow child rapists free then I’m not sure how to explain that part to you.
Might help to know what country you’re in, or continent even?
How does anyone expect to get very nation specific advice like this without giving any hint as to where they’re from - besides it probably being a country that probably has many English speakers as a second language if not first…
No, no. Didn’t you hear? The Internet is just the US.
Hell, I grew up in and currently live in Texas and even I know better than that.
nonsense there’s nothing outside texas
If there’s one thing I’ve learned from working with Texans, it is that they’re Texan first, american second.
I mean, you’re not wrong. And at one time I felt like it meant something. It meant we didn’t push our religion on others. They were free to do what they wanted. If someone was doing something we didn’t like but wasn’t hurting anyone we just minded our fucking business (usually said about LGBTQIA+ folks). It probably wasn’t nearly as true as I felt, but that’s the kind of thing I was taught growing up. And everyone wonders why I grew up to be progressive, respecting other people’s rights and mistrusting the government as it stands and corporations.
I know quite a few who moved here (norway) from Texas, as they didn’t like how the state overall went from being traditionally conservative to radically regressive.
One of them recently got his Norwegian passport and I of course had to accuse him of forgetting the Alamo.
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Hej, söta bror. I think you meant to post a reply to OP and not me.
Sorry, are you talking about Parisians?
Might be true there as well. I’ve only met, like, two french people who may or may not be from Paris.
No, no, parisians are pretty rural. They won’t have much interaction that you can find. You’ve got to get the suburbs (because the urban areas are generally cool) of dallas, houston, san antonio, or austin to really find the people desperate to show how texas comes first.
Have you worked with many Texans? My office employs half a dozen remotely and they’re exceptional team players.
I’ve never even crossed the Atlantic, yet I identify as a purebred texan
I’m sorry
There’s no need to be hostile toward Americans. They didn’t do anything to you.
Yet
The same could be said of any person on Earth. Why single out one country?
Unless you are also american. In that case, they keep stabbing you in the back.
I have respectful relationships with many Americans, none of whom “keep stabbing me in the back.”
Where are you getting this from?
From a minority perspective.
What does that mean?
Plenty of americans think it’s acceptable to have their neighbors killed. They may not physically do it outright (not all of them), but they support the murder of innocent people. They vote to have people killed. There are too many killers in america.
The “Beekeeper”.
I think the best thing about that movie was the realisation halfway through that Statham was supposed to be doing an accent.
Forward their info to one of the scam baiters like Jim browning.
This is probably the solution that will actually result in something being done. Give it to multiple in fact. Jim Browning, Scammer Payback, Kit Boga. Increase your chances.
Yeah and I feel like since you control their internet access, you could help the baiters pull off some extra zesty fun
Sounds like a great opportunity to intercept traffic to scam sites and steal their credentials from a site they think they control. Not really legal though.
I think the fact that the company is illegally using their networking equipment might make it legal.
Don’t forget to say “no infringement intended, all rights go to their owners” to fully protect yourself from any charges.
Not many eye for an eye laws unfortunately. What they’re doing may be illegal, but retaliation is also probably still illegal under a lot of the same reasons.
Unauthorized computer access laws are a hell of a thing.
If you do multiple, give it time between each.
FTC
If this is America… Don’t depend on the government for justice.
Some kid 50 years from now is going to write a paper on the moral dilemma of calling ICE on a scam center.
How recently did you learn not to trust the US government that you think it is news to anyone?
They’re asking where you report fraud.
The FTC is where you report fraud.
To be fair, Brandan Carr is who Trump has running the FCC. He is corrupt as fuck, he’s made some bonehead moves, and he drafted large parts of project 2025.
Results may vary if you’re reporting this to his FCC.
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is not the same organization as the Federal Communications Commission (FCC).
Andrew Ferguson, chair of the FTC, was originally appointed to the Commission by Biden in 2023 and was made chair by Trump this year. He’s definitely softer on big corporate monopolies and mergers than his predecessor, but has not been quite as much a blowhard as one would normally expect from Trump’s picks.
You’re right. I’m an idiot.
We all make mistakes, at least you can admit you’re wrong. Also, don’t call yourself an idiot. You’re not.
Comments like this is why I love Lemmy.
Lol honestly I had to search it to make sure they were actually distinct, especially since the venn diagram between them definitely has a large shared space in regards to regulating tech companies
They said the federal trade commission, not the FCC. This guy is the chair
Brendan Carr*
To be a catty bitch: oh no shit?
The comments by Americans recently recognizing their shitty government and issuing sincere warnings to people who have been aware of the American peril for decades reminds me of student drivers earnestly explaining how important turn signals are to their driving instructors.
student drivers earnestly explaining how important turn signals are to their driving instructors
Wait, what?
What’s up?
OP will warn them, and they’ll end up charging him with the crime.
Yeah, specially if it’s his WiFi they are using.
Even if they do end up busting the scammers, OP can expect being harassed and have some of his stuff confiscated for investigation.
Not right now anyway. But if it’s a small operation with poor or brown people the they will take care of it.
If they’re using your guest network, identify their MAC addresses and log all of their activity. Alternatively, you could also restrict their access or place a password on the guest network.
the secret service or FBI.
First, I’d disable the guest wifi so that you don’t get caught up in anything. Then report them first to the management / super. Then maybe the gov’t.
They would probably want you to leave the access up so they can easily capture the traffic without needing a warrant.
Yeah, but I wouldn’t want to be culpable for anything they do on my wifi.
Take off and nuke the site from orbit.
Ripley did not fuck around
Send them a Bomb
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Glitter Bomb I mean
I think this calls for something stronger; corn syrup, powdered sugar, beef broth, etc.
Rotten fish juice
You want op to give them garum?
Definitely got 3-4 different vintages of that in the fridge. Trying to replicate the recipe from some ingredient box that calls for a dash of this or that…
A fart and glitter bomb
But… How to trick them into eating the thing?
Ask them for help with your cars extended warranty.
Call in The Beekeeper.
