You know my first thought was that if I was a widower with two kids I definitely wouldn’t work in a job that dangerous but what are the chances that being an astronaut is actually safer than driving an hour long commute?
You could die working in McDonald’s, at least this way he can support two kids on a single income.
I get it and I’m all for this mission.
But if I was a single dad I would never risk my life by going to the moon on a test flight.
Holy shit the comments ITT
Yeah watched this live and man it was hard to work the rest of the day.
Thousands of men do the same. Why is the guy who’s in a roller coaster amusement park ride the one who gets recognition?
Thousands of men do the same, every day, and they deserve recognition even if they neither want it or get it. Humanity can’t comprehend its own mass, so the occasional exceptional member becomes the focus of attention. This mission is plagued by the politics of American exceptionalism, “been there, done that”, and its own problems. Despite our advances and technology and Hollywood, still isn’t that easy to send a human around the moon.
Humanity can’t comprehend its own mass
If we can’t fathom the billions of miles between the stars, how could we possibly fathom billions of humans existing?
Because all single parents doing their best deserve recognition. We don’t know the other “thousands of men” or hundreds of milions of women names, but we know this one and we give him the recognition he deserves. It doesn’t mean all other doesn’t
Don’t worry, y’all, I will fix him 😪
Man attempting to raise 2 daughters escapes to outer space
outer space contains the best quality milk
He fucked off further than anyone has ever fucked off before.
Can he take my father? Was there a vote or lottery to send your bigoted parents to the moon.
What a fool, there are no cigarettes on the moon!
Don’t tell that to Elon. We still have a chance to send him away if he thinks he could somehow escape all the children he’s forcing women to have.
“Hey Elmo, the moon is made of drugs!”
I also choose this guy’s moon crater.
We could have done the same goddamn thing without any people risking their lives strapped to bus atop a rocket.
We could have tested the safety of a manned mission without people on the manned mission? How in the hell do we do that?
We could have taken picture’s of the moon’s ass.
There is literally zero reason for us to put people in space when we can send drones to do it.
They’re practicing for the future manned landing
Which is fucking stupid and wasteful.
There are several reasons to put actual people in to space.
They might be reasons you think worth it, but they do exist.
We already have people in space on the ISS constantly, this manned moon mission is completely unnecessary
Indeed, no scientific studies could ever benefit from a 40% increase in data from test subjects.
Not to mention they aren’t even in the same environmental conditions, or doing the same activities, the data would be completely different (aside from the common baseline of space stuff) and therefore useless for comparison purposes.
I’m not sure why anyone would bother.
Look, i get why you might think it’s unnecessary, i don’t care enough to have an my own opinion on it’s cost/benefit analysis.
All i was saying is that reasons do exist.
You could get 40% more of the same data by increasing output on the ISS with no increased risk of death. The difference in environment between the ISS and the moon is worthless, instead of zero gravity they’re just in low gravity, which we can achieve without even going to the ISS, low orbit would do the trick with even lower risk. This is a publicity stunt to compensate for the US looking like a fucking joke, extra risk for no extra benefit beyond showing off.
All of what you said is reasonable at a glance, still it’s not relevant to my argument.
Reasons exist.
Whether or not the reasons are good is irrelevant to my original argument.
If you’re asking me whether or not i think the reasons are good, my answer is i don’t know and I’m not invested enough in the answer to go looking.
What i will do is put down my uneducated answers to your response.
You could get 40% more of the same data by increasing output on the ISS with no increased risk of death.
Increasing output of existing members is unlikely to be equivalent to data from entirely new test subjects.
40% more data on existing subjects isn’t the same as 40% additional data from new subjects.
For a more equal comparison you’d need to ship new people to the ISS and then your argument would only be true if there was zero risk of death in getting new people to the ISS.
The difference in environment between the ISS and the moon is worthless, instead of zero gravity they’re just in low gravity, which we can achieve without even going to the ISS, low orbit would do the trick with even lower risk.
That’s subjective but you could be right, i’d possibly argue that the combination of factors in space in addition to the low gravity would be different than a terrestrial equivalent, so a low gravity experiment in the ISS might be a better comparison.
I don’t know enough to be certain about any of that though.
This is a publicity stunt to compensate for the US looking like a fucking joke, extra risk for no extra benefit beyond showing off.
Possibly, i’d guess likely, but again i don’t know enough to have a reasonable opinion on this.
But it’s super cool.
They’re there to gather data on the moon’s surface and how being on a manned mission affects the human body.
We already have pictures of the dark side of the moon, so the intention this time was for the human eye to view it, since it gets much more detail anyway.
They’ve been testing the effects of low gravity on the human body in the ISS the whole time, they absolutely do not need to send people to the moon for that. Everything they’re doing right now could be done by an unmanned mission.
We already did that with Artemis I, this is a test flight for manned flights to build a base and explore further
you’re just cranky because your asshole is all cheezed up.
sorry i am too uneducated:
can someone explain what the meme is here?
Mods on this sub have no standards
Text + Picture = Meme
I think the meme-ness here is shaky, but I for one will allow it.
Absolute Gigachad!
“Hey girls, I know mum died, but I’m going to risk my life flying a rocket to the moon so there’s a significant chance I won’t make it back and you two will have to figure shit out on your own. Bye, daddy’s gotta go, if I make it there I’ll name something after you or something. I left some cash on the table, don’t spend it all on pizza or meth, see ya! Well, maybe hahaha”
“Hey kids, I’m going to be gone for 2 weeks… Cause I’m going to the FUCKING MOON! Get dunked on nerds”
Ya… That’s why he’s a bad parent.
I get why you’re being downvoted, but there’s definitely a wee bit of truth in there…
true
Interstellar vibes
Somehow it’s heroic to abandon your kids who you raise on your own after their mother died to strap your ass on a big ass bomb, to go to a giant rock we already found to be inhospitable and useless 50 years ago. But thanks to the dick measuring contest between billionaires and dictators these days who sell their dumb ideas with fancy CGI promo videos which are total bullshit, we’re doing it all over again. It costs billions, while people can’t pay their rent, food, medical bills.
So I get the downvotes if you’re an American patriot who jerks off the flag every day, because Americans don’t seem to care about child welfare with all those school shootings and known pedophiles voted Into office. Otherwise it’s just dumb to think this guy is somehow a hero for risking his kids losing both parents. Or that the crater thing makes up for it.
On the surface, I agree with you. As a parent myself, I would never go to the moon on a test flight like this.
As an American, though, I’d like to take a moment to politely tell you to go fuck yourself.
Wait! Let me explain. You have very good English, which suggests you’re probably from a well-developed country where English is a primary language. The level of hostility in your tone makes it unlikely you’re from a developing country. And even if you were, that wouldn’t put you in a better position to criticize.
If you are from a well-developed country, that means you have your own problems, don’t you?
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
If you don’t like America, then get off Lemmy. Because guess what? Lemmy was largely developed by an American. Yes, I know it involved collaboration with developers from other countries, but the primary origin is still American.
Ignoring all your weird patronization of the global south…
If you don’t like America, then get off Lemmy. Because guess what? Lemmy was largely developed by an American. Yes, I know it involved collaboration with developers from other countries, but the primary origin is still American.
No idea if the main developer, comrade dessalines, is American, but they have a Che Guevara profile pic.
Here’s a snippet from the US atrocities section of their essays repo:
“If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don’t care for human beings.” - Nelson Mandela
Two of the other original devs are Nutomic and SleeplessOne1917. Nutomic has a Fidel Castro pfp, and SleeplessOne1917 uses the year of the October revolution in their username. Safe to say the devs of Lemmy do not like America. They also admin lemmygrad.ml
Might want to check your assumptions (and western chauvinism)
If you
don’tlike America, then get off Lemmy. Because guess what? Lemmy was largely developed byan Americanbased communist revolutionaries. Yes, I know it involved collaboration with developers fromother countriesthe great satan, but the primary origin is stillAmericanMarxist-Leninist.FTFY!
I couldn’t care less where the other devs are from or their ideological/political associations. All of that is entirely irrelevant.
What is relevant however is exactly what you didn’t want to talk about. For example, what country you’re from. Which tells me pretty much everything I need to know. Just put a sock in your mouth and shut up.
Also not taking the bullshit communist bait.
Downvoted for being right, by butthurt americans desperately trying to convince themselves that the US isn’t a complete fucking joke
Not to be a dick…but imagine a mother putting her two kids who have already lost their dad at a serious risk of becoming orphans
Why did you have to switch the genders to make this absurd point?
Because mothers get vilified for things but when fathers do it it’s heroic.
I don’t think mother astronauts get vilified. The first one did back in the 70s, but mothers are constantly going to space. Granted they weren’t single parents.
Like I get what you’re talking about, and you’re not wrong. It’s just a weird topic to inject into this post.
You’re not wrong. Male CEOs do not get asked how they balance work with fatherhood.
I don’t think it’s that likely surely it’s less risky than driving?
No, definitely not. Spaceflight is still very dangerous.
It is massively dangerous.
As of April 2026, a total of 791 people have flown into space and 19 of them have died in related incidents. This sets the current statistical fatality rate at 2.4 percent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight-related_accidents_and_incidents
Or to look at it from a different angle, 5 out of the 413 total manned space flights have ended in fatalities, or 1.21%.
Auto travel in the US has a fatality rate around 1 death per 100 million driven miles. Assuming an average trip of 20 miles, that’s 1 death per 5 million car trips, or 0.00002%.
So, roughly 10,000 (EDIT: actually 100,000, missed a zero!) times more dangerous than driving.
100,000 actually.
Good catch! Lost track of my zeros
What do the numbers look like if we assume the average trip is from the earth to the moon and back?
Are you asking to change the definition of a car trip to the ~500,000 miles it takes to get to the moon and back?
In that case, rate of fatality is around 1 in 200 “driving to the moon and back” trips. 0.5% chance. So taking the rocketship is still significantly more dangerous.
More realistically, 500,000 miles is roughly a lifetime of driving. So these astronauts are being exposed in a single trip to a fatality risk equivalent of 2+ lifetimes of driving.
Thanks for satiating my curiosity.
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