• DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Windows 10 on the same level as ME and Vista?.. And worse than 8 with that fucking Metro UI?

    Ok. Ok…oh…kay.

    Look I like Linux and want to eventually abandon windows for it, but this is just mindless circle jerking here

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      This meme says:

      • windows 8 somehow is more beloved than Windows 10 (lmao)
      • linux is just one single OS, instead of an agglomerate of hundreds of distributions
      • and implies that every single one of them got better with time (lmao)
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        Redstar os is the best os everyone knows it’s the pinnacle of linux engineering

        Sent from my spy-software-free mobile device (verified by my government™)

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    Linux is fun! I installed mint ln, everything went well except my wifi wasn’t working, spent a while downloading drivers, installing them, turns out I just had the wifi pw wrong. How embarass 🫢

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      Yea, I’d say Win10/11 is on the same good/shit cycle as always

      Though whether Win12 breaks it and continues the shitty trend is highly likely at this point

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          7 > 10 > 8 > 11

          On this graph 10 should be where 8 is and 8 should be where 10 is, 11 is exactly where it should be

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          I’d call it a damped spring oscillation. Still goes up and down, but the extremes peter out with time.

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      Definitely, yes. Win8 was unusable on desktops but was pretty good on tablets, win10 sucks on both. But the main thing is that spyware/bloatware explosion happened in win10. Xbox services, onedrive, cortana, that weather thing with msn news, fucking candy crush preinstalls, etc, all came with win10.

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      Try to install windows 10 on hdd and see for yourself, Linux works fine no matter which device it’s loaded from, windows before 10 did too

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        Windows philosophy is that it comes pre-installed and should be used with recent hardware. You may think of that what you will (environment wise etc), but to me that’s a valid design choice to make, in principle.

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            No, but what are you going to do? Install WIn10 on a computer that’s too old and doesn’t meet the minimum specs?

            If you have a 2010 computer, it’s either old WIndows or Linux, modern WIndows is going to suck, if it even works. Ergo, i can’t think of a circumstance where you’d want/have to install Win10 on a hard drive instead of an SSD.

            Maybe shits and giggles, like trying to run Doom on random stuff? If someone has more imagination than me then i’m open

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              Modern linux mint with zram works flawlessly on lga775 4gb ram and Nvidia gt210 and hdd as main and only drive

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    The only thing I disagree with here is Win8 being apparently better than Win10.

    Win8 was really damn annoying to use without a touchscreen, and while Win8.1 did help, Win10 was by far the better implementation of PC Metro IMO.

    Having said that, Win11 is exactly where it needs to be. It’s all of Win10’s worst traits cranked up to 11 with a heaping of it’s own bullshit and spyware on top

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      Windows 10 should be a dead cat bounce on this chart. Better than 8, worse than 7, better than 11 by a lot.

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      Win8 was really damn annoying to use without a touchscreen

      So many people say that but I actually liked the menu. It opened very fast and you could far more quickly find and hit the right tile than that stupid nested programs tree that was the norm in the start menus of earlier Windows versions.

      I’d say considering that telemetry started to creep in primarily with Win 10, 8 was indeed better (meaning less bad).

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        Personally, I felt like Win8 was an over correction in favor of touch screens vs Win7. Win8.1 was kind of the sweet spot for getting touch screen functionality into Windows while maintaining a consistent UI between tablets, laptops, and desktops. So much so that I would consider it to be separate point on the chart between 8 and 10.

        Win10 did improve the UI a bit over that, but was so much of a step backwards in basically every other regard that I do consider that the point at which Windows started trending consistently downwards. As in, Win10 should be lower then Win7 on that curve, with Win11 lower than that, and no real hope that any future updates or versions will ever improve anything.

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    I liked Vista (I was never a RAM peasant & I liked the glass theme) and hated XP.

    I was also always sad how Me was brutally sodomised by shitty third party drivers (who just renamed 98 drives).

    I considered W8 and 11 just as mediocre moneygrabs or maybe a marketing stunt.

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    This implies that Linux is rising but still worse than the worst windows os 🫣🫠🫤😴🤧🤮🥴

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        I feel like they should cross. For a long time Linux really was “worse” than Windows in the sense that you needed some computer knowledge and deal with incompatibilities with the OS that most people were using; both have gotten better in recent years and Windows has gotten worse, so for some use cases i’d say we could be at the point that the lines cross.

        Written from my Mint laptop, absolutely perfect but i’ve only used it for internet and office so nothing fancy

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          Yup. For me it similar. I was getting frustrated with the lack of customization in Win11, while at the same time seeing that Linux is actually viable for me with the Steam Deck.

          I’ve been running Linux for a year now and while it was good enough for me to switch back then, it’s incredible how much better it has gotten since then.

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            And it’s that good at 4% market share. Imagine the possibilities if 20% of desktops were Linux, with that much dev time being put into it.

            I say “if” but maybe it’s “when”

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    Windows Vista was better than 8 and 10, a lot of legacy devices in industry kept extended Vista support for years and years.

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    Win 10 was definitely an improvement over 8. I’d even argue that 10 as it started out was the best since xp. Of course now 10 has been fully enshitified but it used to be good.

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      I’d even argue that 10 as it started out was the best since xp

      How can you so batantly skip over Win 7? I’ve heard some argue 10 was better (it wasn’t) but that 7 >> XP was pretty undisputed.

      All three are shit compared to Linux, of course (Arch btw).

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      I would agree that 10 was very good, but i could say similar things about windows 11 which in many ways performs better then 10.

      And yet its shortly after upgrading to 11 that i switched to linux to never look back.

      I think part of the logic in this meme is that it doesn’t matter how good the basic functions of the operating system are but what does is the design philosophy of the company. Loyalty in other systems decreased while Loyalty in windows gained.

      Microsoft force feeding edge, onedrive, burrying the local account option till after the install with Microsoft account.

      Randomly finding an update put a second weather widget on my taskbar that shows a different weather then the one in start. Taskbar icons that cant be closed, only hidden.

      These things don’t affect the OS functionality in a big deal but its like i was in an abusive relationship that i finally got out of. No matter how much sweet talking and promises to do better i am not going back.

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      8 wasn’t nearly as bad as people think, and there were big improvements to the kernel that make it a definite improvement over 7.

      The problem for most people was the Start screen, which if you could get past, left you with what was a really good OS.

      Less ads and telemetry than 10, too.

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    Vista wasn’t that bad. The dodgy selling it on computers that couldn’t handle it was an issue (much like they still do with selling laptops with only 32gb storage).

    I still think it was one of the nicest looking - black taskbar with the start button sticking up, sidebar widgets, aero glass etc

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      You’re absolutely right about this. 7 is basically a Vista service pack that got rebranded.

      All of the “good stuff” people credit 7 with came in Vista.

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      It was never stable for me. I remember I had a laptop that would always refuse to shut down because “shutdown.exe” was running

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      I think some of the biggest complaints about Vista were its poor driver support and over-active UAC. You couldn’t hardly do anything on the computer without UAC bugging you for permission when Vista first came out.

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      I remember the hardware situation being very fucked, due to driver authors not updating their shit in time and people trying to get their older stuff working which worked fine under XP, but was incompatible with Vista’s new driver model. It took a couple years until the release of 7 for most of those issues to get ironed out.