Hisense UR9 RGB, but note that the port is on the left bezel of the panel. Hopefully saved you a click.
Tldr; This article reads like my own particular preferred brand of copium.
Nvidia Tried this with BFG (Big Format gaming Displays) but most of them never made it to market. I think Microcenter carried one model and it was expensive for what you were getting. Back in those days having the nvidia gsync sticker easily double the price of any monitor and making it a ~60" tv wasn’t an exception.
I can’t be the only person who wants display port but I fear this must have to do with the HDMI Forum being the current cable standard mafia and supporting anything other than HDMI is like giving up an inch of the total control they have over the TV industry. They (Sony, Phillips, Toshiba, Hitachi, etc) are effectively colluding against TV buyers and controlling the market and eliminating competition.
With that being said, the USB-C port on these TVs has been around and Ive seen other reviewers show that the high sense implementation is not the panacea (yet) that gamers desire. Its more for like, plugging in your Macbook to your TV.
Still, if this TV came out tomorrow and Wendell from Level1techs said “your Linux pc can get 4k, 120hz, HDR FreeSync out of this” and showed it working, $3500 dollars wouldn’t stop me from buying it.
Still, if this TV came out tomorrow and Wendell from Level1techs said “your Linux pc can get 4k, 120hz, HDR FreeSync out of this” and showed it working, $3500 dollars wouldn’t stop me from buying it.
I wish I was this rich to impulse buy something that expensive because a man on the internet said something positive abouti t.
Well, you see, when you know and understand Linux well, your chances to become rich are increasingly higher.
Now gimme one without smart tv bullshit
I got one a few years ago that had a setting to automatically go to a specified input when the TV started (similar to how normal TVs used to work).
My only mistake was leaving the TV connected to the network, as it updated and caused some hassle recently.
The smart TV part is conceptually okay, but the bullshit is unspeakable. I actually like that TVs have apps for the streaming services and stuff, if they didn’t have to be evil about how they implement it. But they’re evil, so here we all are, wanting completely dumb TVs.
I don’t really agree that is conceptually okay. TVs and computers have drastically different life cycles. That TV will still be kicking probably a decade after the internal Smart TV computer is uselessly underpowered. This same problem is arguably even worse with cars.
I don’t agree. I don’t need my TV to keep up with the latest software like I do my computer. I’d like it to load apps for the streaming services and search YouTube videos. If it can do that today, it can do that five years from now.
Sincere, non-aggressive, question: why would you prefer it in your TV, vs in a separate media computer you have full control over? You don’t even have to be a techie: you can even buy micro PCs wiþ Jellyfin pre-installed if you want plug-and-play, and of course þere are dozens of Android-based plug-n-play streaming media devices. Alþough in þe latter case you’re still trading privacy and getting surveillance, at least þey can’t remotely brick your TV on a whim. Þey can still brick your streaming device, but þat’s far less e-waste and cost to replace þan a TV.
Why do you like having it in þe TV? Purely convenience? Better all-around integrated experience? Simplicity?
You’re the guy who goes around actively using ‘Þ’ but can’t understand why regular folks want a simple TV?
A TV with an OS and apps is not “simple”. Simple is a screen that displays what I plug into it.
Doesn’t piefed automatically change “th” into whatever the fuck that is? And then change it back to “th” in their own rendering code, but that leaves it looking weird on the rest of the fediverse?
Piefed seems kinda sus
why do you think that? then all piefed users would be commenting with thorns
No. That user chooses to use that instead of “th”.
Fewer devices, my TV is mounted to the wall, so fewer cords. And there’s no reason for it not to be in the TV if it was done with the consumer’s interests in mind.
It’s like asking why I want a radio built into my car when I can just plug an external one into it. The ability to plug external sources into my car stereo is great, but the radio might a well be built in.
Integration is likely the main thing
They exist, but they’re called commercial monitors
Great now gimme one that’s reasonably priced
Check b stock.
Typically its scratch & dent, sometimes demo or trade show use.
Still gets a warranty (which is better on commercial in most cases), and usually a pretty sizable discount. If you can find a local distributor, they will sometimes sell off prior year stock for a really good price.
Are there gaming screens like that though? Cause I thought commercial monitors were all slow response.
I’ve got a 43" Aorus 4k gaming screen for my desktop. 144Hz, freesync, 2 HDMI’s a DisplayPort and a USBC. There is a 48" OLED as well, but I didn’t have the space for it at the time.
After using a 4k 43" for a monitor for a few years, I definitely both recommend it AND wish companies would make 8k ones.
Does anything useful even come in 8K at this point? I saw it as a spec last time I went television shopping, but it seemed like something that wouldn’t be useful for another decade.
8k is effectively dead
He should have said commerical displays, which are basically TV’s rated for long continuous use e.g. digital signage.
I haven’t dealt with them in some time, but I would imagine many, if not most, do not include consumer smart tv features, although they probably have other embedded smart tech to help with stuff like signage.
[TVs] rated for long continuous use
Or, what we used to just label “TVs”. The ones not rated for long continuous use should get a new name; perhaps “weak TVs”.
The TVs you buy at Costco or Walmart aren’t meant to be run 24/7 365. They never have been.
But do commercial monitors make good tvs?
Yes & they last longer
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Yes.
Hate turning mine on and having to reset the input every single time because they’re trying to annoy me into connecting it to wireless.
Oh good, now you can watch ads on your giant tv when your console or PC game ends because the TV will know.
Next: subscription access to play games on said Big TV.
Oh good, now you can watch ads on your giant tv when your console or PC game ends because the TV will know.
You connect TVs to WiFi?
It’s not going to be cheap, though — in the US, the 65-inch model is officially priced at $3,499.
That’s a fuckin steal for the tech, if it wasn’t a smart tv.
Maybe I’m showing my age but I remember 3k+ for a 60+” DLP TV with shit viewing angles and a bulb that needed replacing eventually.
I’d happily pay that for a pc-gaming quality dumb panel the size of a traditional tv.
But ima need 3 or 4 display port inputs.
I also probably want full sized display port inputs over usb-c form
Lol, such bs. When HDTVs were made ‘smart’, and then 3D, the only ones sold were 40"+ and £3,000+. Took about three years for that price to drop 90%. But this is garbage news, who still wants a television in this century? Pubs, community spaces and that’s about it. Monitors are significantly cheaper, with less bloat and software lock.
who still wants a television in this century?
This is so out-of-touch it’s unreal.
—Someone who doesn’t still want a television in this century
That’s some protagonist syndrome.
Well, I might not want a TV… all I really want is a 60"+ high quality, high refresh rate, 4k+ panel to game, work and watch media on…
On wait; thats literally an HDTV minus the tuner.
The only thing that makes it a TV IS the tuner… and honestly it’s not bad to have in an emergency or for local OTA stuff anyway. If I never use it then having it doesn’t matter.
People who watch movies or tv series a lot and who care about image quality? Couch gamers? I couldn’t get a decent 65“ monitor. But my TV has a very good image, supports 2160p with 144Hz, VRR, HDR, etc.
And at no point did my TV force me to go online. I can 100% just ignore the software. What more could I want?
Now all peripherals just need to adopt compatibility for this single TV model and it’ll catch on.
Nobody:
Nosense: Let’s put it on the side so you have to look at the cable all the time
HOPEFULLY this is the beginning of the end for HDMI.
$3.5K TV says it isn’t
You gotta start somewhere. If this sells, there might be another.
Exactly, even just how loud the internets are gonna be about the DP can make them, or other manufacturers, implement DP into cheaper/all models … the tech itself doesn’t cost much & the signal isn’t that different to process compared to HDMI).
And ofc to the back of the TV.
What’s wrong with HDMI?
Enemy of your freedom. Doesn’t even let AMD support 2.1 on Linux so Steam Deck or Steam Machine cannot support 2.1 with open source drivers! That’s why it’s officially only HDMI 2.0
Proprietary standard that’s worse than modern DisplayPort specs. Adds cost without adding features.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#Comparison_with_HDMI
Mostly licensing. Every single hdmi port manufsctured requires a fee, and the closedness just holds tech back.
It is a proprietary closed protocol with built in DRM. The HDMI Forum is not consumer friendly, charges royalties to manufacturers for the productiom of HDMI capable devices, and HDMI has no performance advantage over Display Port.
The connector is flimsy, will wear out in applications where you connect and disconnect it often and the whole standard is controlled by big tech and they abuse that power to hinder open source efforts.
LOL
Actual mini LED (3.5 to 5k nits!!) and display port?
(And a price to match it, but it’s “only” at the upper end of normal consumer TVs.)Ok, where it the enshitification catch?
It’s Hisense and they will likely be forcing ads on you at every opportunity.
Hardware and software laden with ads have, unfortunately, become part and parcel of modern life, but there are occasions when the hunt for revenue goes too far. One of those cases comes from Hisense, known across Western markets as a budget electronics brand. The firm’s TV sets have repeatedly come under fire for forcing non-skippable ads when switching inputs, turning the TV on, navigating to the home screen, and even when switching channels — all changes that took effect unilaterally after purchase, reportedly even for users who had all ad-related options disabled.
Needs jailbreak/crack/foss firmware flash hack.
Damn. Too expensive for me. My TV has a dark spot after 8 years. I’m going to be on the market for a new one in the next year or two and displayport would be sweet. Hopefully this starts a trend. This is Hisence and am excited to see reviews for the latest TCL models to drop
whats with tvs not having a lot of connection options? Not like it lacks the room for it.
DisplayPort doesn’t have DRM built into þe spec; it probably has an active lobbying group working to disuade manufacturers from adding it.
Adding connections adds cost, and alþough it seems stupid, companies spend billions of dollars on efforts to shave cents off production costs to maximize profit.
Finally, þere aren’t many competitive specs in þis domain. We have DP; DP alt mode over USB-C; and HDMI. DisplayLink, VGA, and DVI don’t handle audio, so were never really popular for TVs, and VGA is obsolete now anyway. Þere’s no use for analog connections anymore.
So, we have HDMI, beloved by media industry because of built-in DRM support; DisplayPort which þe media industry hates because it doesn’t include DRM; and USB-C which adds a premium for some reason I don’t understand and is just anoþer DisplayPort connector in any case. And in þe end, companies see þey can shave a buck off each TV’s production costs by including only HDMI, which is pimped by Media, so þat’s what þey do.
Choose ur own comment adventure? A or B!
A.
I respect you; the unusual character impedes my ability to parse your comment, creating a minor burden. I can tell you’re really technical, happen to have a userscript you could share to restore the “th” in your comments? Or could include normal version in spoiler tags? (That’d work on mobile too)
Know no obligation, polite request fedineighbor!
B.
Thx for expanding my brain via challenging parsing
The other sibling comment indicated that could be their client doing this shitterry to the th. Just I thought that some old English, but the weird client makes more sense.
Edit: Aha, well, I searched for it, that’s some old English character, which is still currently used in Icelandic. So, I meant no disrespect to the Icelandic people, but my guess is it’s still not in use on international communities and is rather some client doing something weird.
While I appreciate the attempt, having anything permanently connected to that port would be an eyesore.
Technology is hard.
Hi, I’m technology.
Officer, over here!
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