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Dolph Lundgren also smells crime, and when he’s not out fighting crime …
He still audits classes at MIT occasionally.
Carl Sagan, Neil Tyson, Dora the Explorer. All very important. Be interested in things.
If he is a Prime, what does he transform into?
120ft tall robot version of himself.
Stephen Hawking fell into the same role in his later years. If your first introduction to him was trying to communicate science to stupid people, please read Black Holes and Baby Universes, or really, any of his works before he was getting ready to die.
Theater is everything. Even in “science”.
to be fair bill nye is using his degree and teaching rather than someone that just ditched his degree after he got it. in a job setting they will take bill nye over someone that hasnt used his degree in a while. some people. one is passionate about the stems while the other ones wasnt, some people get higher degrees just because of pressure in thier social circles and then end up hating it and leaving, there were alot of those people in college.
they are seeing someone as having more prestige and degree means they are more qualfied than someone that has more experience in the field.
If anything, in my 30 years I’ve learned degrees only mean so much. Someone without a degree but with actual on the job experience will out perform a new grad any day of the week.
Frankly the university system has become a way to make sure the poor stay poor.
i believe that too, unfortunately for stems its still archaic in the way it gains experience, plus its also gatekeeped too in a way too, like they gatekeep MD salaries, although not as aggressive, the profs at my school you can gauranteed one of them had money to go to harvard or some expensive school and come out with a job in hand, you can tell which one came from these top schools because they also give off an elitist attitude. one the gen chem prof was like that.
bill nye is not a scientist, and he never claimed to be one. He is a science communicator, a role he has done well for some time.
Same with Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson has a Phd in astrophysics and he has published a lot of papers. He is a scientist and a science communicator. Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye are not the same.
He specifically claims to be a science guy. Not a scientist.
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BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL!
Not the same with Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
I’m not his biggest fan, but I fully respect his scientific credentials. He has a PhD from Columbia. He published at least a dozen papers. There’s no question that he’s a scientist, a manager of scientists, as well as a science communicator.
The problem is that his success seems to have destroyed his humility. It’s not that he brags about being so incredibly smart. It’s more that he doesn’t ever seem to sit back and say “hey, maybe this isn’t something where my contributions won’t be appreciated”. I think his science communication is doing more good than harm. I think he’s a great role model for little black boys who think all scientists are white, or that they’re all stuffy nerds with no personality. But, I think he’s at his best when he’s in a show where there’s a script and an editor. On social media and on free-form podcasts, he comes off as a know-it-all ass.
But, I think he’s at his best when he’s in a show where there’s a script and an editor. On social media and on free-form podcasts, he comes off as a know-it-all ass.
^ This. I still am miffed at his attitude in regards to considering the issues of AI on I forget which talk show, but he took the attitude of “we’d just pull the plug”.
Maybe when in a scripted format or in writing, he might be able to extrapolate a bit, but he just sounded like a layperson when it comes to the topic, and I honestly have no idea if he’s read or considered the kinds of things that, say, Nick Bostrom has put out there. It just sounded like some hot take man-on-the-street kind of response, talking about the problem as if we are talking about someone’s server running somewhere. It was just…facepalm.
He is a know-it-all ass. He’s a self-important dickhead. But I appreciate his role in getting young black kids seeing a role model that they can relate to. That’s far more important than his ego.
Ha! It makes it sound like you’re saying that young black kids are self-important dickheads and that’s why he’s a good role model.
But, yeah, I know what you’re trying to say. Despite his social media presence, the image that kids generally see is a very positive one. He’s a somewhat stylish (in his own way) guy, who clearly has personality, and is a very accomplished scientist. I just cringe any time he comments on something not related to astrophysics.
Exactly. He doesn’t need to ruin movies. We know that movies are for entertainment, it doesn’t need to be dissected as fact. And we certainly don’t need someone taking our escapism away from us. Let us have this, dude. We need this right now, including from the time he became prominent. He killed Pluto, which I guess is fine because it was accurate, but he didn’t need to shove himself into movies and try to ruin our very-much-needed escapism. It’s egotistical, and insulting, as if we don’t know that it’s a movie.
NDT is a pompous ass
Sure but watching him on nova when I was a kid is a big reason I got so into science and engineering so I don’t really care
Unfortunately same with Bill Nye. He seemed so pissed at getting recognized by people at a Symposium.
Like geeze dude sorry you inspired people as kids and encouraged them to pursue science and they’re excited to meet you.
It’s a downside of being educated and fascinated by what you’ve learned.
I’m educated and fascinated by what I’ve learned too, and I’ve managed to not be an pompous ass… Oh wait, nevermind.
He kisses himself in the mirror
But only on the lips.
He also has credible sexual assault allegations against him.
Mark rober manages just fine without being a pompous ass
Here is Mark Rober shilling for Anduril, an AI weapon company.
Well shit. Veritasium? Smarter every day?
Smarter Every Day pushed Young Earth Creation talking points in a video where he tears up remembering his time developing guided missiles :(
I liked Mark Rober until about ten seconds ago, too :(
Its a raw youtube link (I’m a cave-dweller) so I’m putting it here: https://youtu.be/VPSm9gJkPxU?t=1615
Neil does have a PhD. in astrophysics, however.
Neil regularly gets osmosis wrong and thinks it/distilled water can “suck minerals” from your body, something I was taught repeatedly in basic A&P, biology, and chemistry, that isnt true bc osmosis is the movement of water, not solutes.
Neil regularly says super dumb shit lol I don’t subscribe to him but I see random clips of him talking sometimes and not getting things right
Well, considering that’s not astrophysics, I can’t say I’m surprised. Not trying to defend the guy; he can be confidently wrong and a dick at times and should be more aware of what he doesn’t know. On the other hand, I’ve never heard anyone say anything bad about Bill.
Sure, but he has a Bachelor of Science degree. :)
Yeah, but that’s BS
Whoever made this meme doesn’t know what exponentially means.
I, too, spent longer than I ever should have thinking about this. My first thought was, they’re just using it in a linguistic sense, so it doesn’t matter that the exponent would have to be something very small to go from 1 qualification to 4. But then I thought, hm, I guess since there’s only 1 qualification for Bill, no exponent would be enough. But then I realized that grammatically the value in question is “qualification” and not “number of degrees”. The number of degrees is merely standing in as a heuristic proxy to illustrate qualification. This “qualification” scale makes the most the most sense if it’s between 0 and 1, representing percentiles of qualification. Therefore, the exponent applied to Bill’s qualifications must also be between 0 and 1 in order to increase the value to Lundgren’s. For a moment I thought this was the nail in the coffin for the original text, but of course the word “more” there again refers to the qualification, not to the exponent itself. This interpretation has the nice benefit that no matter what the exponent is, we always get a qualification value between 0 and 1. Hence I can conclude this is the only viable headcanon for this post.
This is science, not math.
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…Does Bill Nye need more qualifications to be an effective science educator?
He does not. This post is gatekeeping bullshit. The only thing that matters is knowledge of a subject. This shit reminds me of the worthless dumbfucks who immediately start asking for credentials when I tell them that their understanding of AI is nonsense.
the post thinks having more degrees means your more qualfied in that profession, and also prestige. experience and basic qualification> more degrees and prestige just because your an actor.
Nye is more of if an educator than scientist. A lot like your average science teacher in high school.
Dolph is usually posted in this manner to put down Nye’s support for climate research, anti creationism, and other ‘political’ stands.
Wait why? Does he not support those views?
Dolph is vegan and seems to not care about religion, but mostly stays out of politics.
So he’s probably on the same page as Nye I’m guessing.
His views are easily found online. I’m commenting on the side by side comic meme and its implications.
im not a scientist but my data points indicate that this meme fucking sucks
He’s a science guy.
He’s a science guy, not a scientist.
He sure does like to pretend he’s the latter
Based on what exactly? I’ve gone to one of his events, he’s pretty explicit about being a science educator. I can’t say I’ve seen him claim otherwise anywhere, though people definitely like to put those words in his mouth.
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He’s explicit about being a science communicator and welcomes that discussion.
aw did the science guy hurt your feefees?
show me where the bad man TOLD YOU SOMETHING OBVIOUS THAT RUINED YOUR DAY.
Oh wow, didn’t know Bill Nye also has a toxic, Rick and Morty style army of shit slinging white knights
it’s ok, calm down calm down… just explain what your beef with the science bro is.
not hard, articulate your issues man. let it off your chest, I can tell it’s really really bothering you.
I personally found his style really abrasive in the first and only recent show I’ve seen. Reddit was shitting all over him too, stating mostly that he’s a prick and not friendly IRL at all.
That said what he advocates for is right.
I personally found his style really abrasive
the goofball science schtick doesn’t work for you? I know him from his old tv show from my youth.
Reddit was shitting all over him too, stating mostly that he’s a prick and not friendly IRL at all.
well that’s… kinda an endorsement for me lol. most of reddit is a prick and not friendly irl from my own experiences.
appreciate the reply
well that’s… kinda an endorsement for me lol
From me too. Reddit wasn’t mad because he’s ‘not friendly’, they were mad that Bill was “too woke” and featured a song and dance number by Rachel Bloom that even I found a little cringy tbh. Not because of the message, but I just think it was kind of poorly done. The only people I’ve ever heard say a bad word about Bill were climate deniers, anti vaxxers etc.
I’m proud of Bill for not backing down from politically charged issues, when he could easily ignore them to get more viewers/supporters. Scientists shouldn’t let politics interfere with Science and Science Communicators shouldn’t either.
I’ve never seen the originals, as he’s not that popular in Europe. My only exposure is “Bill Nye Saves The World” on Netflix. I couldn’t get past the first episode.
I’m a big fan of Sagan, and while I don’t think NDT’a Cosmos: A Space time Odyssey was as good as the first series, I was mostly looking at Nye’s show with the same lense and trying to draw comparisons between them.
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What do you guys think is so special about a scientist.
They measure things and record data really well. They apply scientific principles and such.
They use lab equipment and usually have a very narrow scope on the things they are working on.
Do you think every scientist gets a nobel or something?
Scientist isn’t a thing. It’s like artist, a self-designation.
No, its a thing, people have the title “scientist.” Its just a job, tho.
My kid holds a Materials Science degree and worka as a Materials Scientist https://americanprofessionguide.com/materials-scientist-career/
and worka
It’sa you, Mario!
Eeii, mama mia!
Nuh-uh.
Just do a quick job search. I know plenty of scientists.
Researchers, professors, testers, archeologists, chemists, physicists, biologists.
Show me someone walking around with “scientist” on their lapel. It’s like a cartoon joke.
Staff scientists at work vanish into thin air upon receiving this profound take.
Staff assassins move in to protect them from staff ninjas.
What kinda essentialism is this? Artist is also absolutely a job title. Sure, you can self-describe as well, but there are people that get paid to be an artist.
I’m a warrior, a poet, an entrepreneur. Who says I’m not?
No one. Like I said, you can self-identify but it is also a title you can have from a job or similar.
You did say that. I’m corrected.
Bachelors of Science? I know you could argue that is applied to a lot of degrees, However one of my kids is a Materials Scientist. It is the Diploma and Job. https://americanprofessionguide.com/materials-scientist-career/
I’ll bet the bachelor of science degree is in something. BS in psychology. BS in materials (new to me). So you’re going to be a counselor, or a psychologist, or whatever a materialist is called other than materialist which doesn’t make sense.
I’m not sure what you are saying. Its not Materialist its Material Scientist, they study the science of materials and get a diploma in Materials Science, and the job is called Materials Scientist. Its basically Math, chemistry and metalurgial sciences rolled I into one discipline. Thus the link I posted, here’s another https://materials.princeton.edu/education/undergraduate/what-materials-science
