• elbiter@lemmy.world
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    Tired of these see what the moron said reposts. All they do is promoting the moron.

  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The types of people who believe a woman’s only “biological job” is to shit out kids are the same fuckers who haven’t achieved shit in their lives.

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    I don’t like this logic. It implies that a person’s value depends on their achievements. The only difference between the two is what the most important achievements are. Ultimately, this reinforces the right-wing logic that there are people of different values.

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      I would say starting an argument from a point of view which the other is guaranteed to agree with is a great tool to convince people.

      In this case it’s pretty obvious that people who say shit like “women only exist to bare children” will also look up to people with great achievements to their name. As such these to beliefs can be played against eachother.

      If it won’t convince the original bum saying the stupid, it will be a very spectacular way to disarm their logic in front of other people with similar but not so extreme opinions.

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        Sure, but it still reinforces the neoliberal view of humanity and ideology by affirming them. And what about all the millions of women who have not made any great scientific or other achievements and never will that did not have children by the age of 24? Have they then indeed failed in life?

    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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      but there are people of different values.

      for example, people who think others are not worth much are themselves worthless.

    • dualistic@lemmy.world
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      But all people aren’t of equal worth. There isn’t an official arbitrator but we get to decide for ourselves, and there isn’t a much better way to evaluate them than their actions.

      The “all men created equal” in the… US consitution or declaration or whatever is complete nonsense.

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        That is a capitalist, neoliberal attitude at best. It is particularly popular in the USA, where children are taught to evaluate reality in quantitative terms. It is extremely important for US capitalism to promote this view of humanity, because it legitimizes the major social hierarchies in this society. It also legitimizes why children are allowed to go hungry, the poor are denied medical care, and other countries are exploited. After all, they are not worth it, otherwise they would not be in this situation. In the worst case, it is therefore the basis for right-wing ideology in the USA.

        But ultimately, it is a normative decision that everyone makes for themselves. I cannot convince you with arguments. If you believe that people are fundamentally worth different amounts, then probably no argument can convince you otherwise. I can only say that I am glad not to have anyone like you in my circle.

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        Declaring people to have a certain value relative to each other strikes me as uncomfortably close to treating people as things.

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    I try hard to put myself into other people’s shoes but I find it impossible to imagine being as fuckin’ stupid as this.

    Edit: I wonder if he applies the same logic to men. He looks over 24 to me.

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      Even if we had it, imagine how small your life is if you actually believe we are born to do a biological job.

      • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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        Imagine if we flipped the tables. If it’s all on women to have and raise kids and nothing more, wouldn’t that mean a man’s job is to get laid/donate sperm, impregnate someone once, and that’s it? If that’s all there is and he’s fulfilled his role, there’s no need to stay alive after that. Like a male bee, exploding after mating. Why bother with society, hobbies, learning and growing? OP’s “job” as a man is nothing more than to literally fuck off and die, mission complete.

        Obviously I don’t believe that, just taking his argument to its logical conclusion. I’ve heard people say that women are just for making babies so many times in my life, but I’ve never heard men’s role put in the same terms.

        It sounds ridiculous because it is ridiculous. We’re all so much more than our biological equipment. I know I’m preaching to the choir here, I just had to rant for a moment.

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          Unfortunately they’ll probably just say they are meant to be the masters of a harem and kill any potential rival males. Literally troglodyte shit

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          I like that reasoning. If I had any toxic male friends saying shit like this I might use it, thanks!

  • Seth Taylor@lemmy.world
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    That list does not affect him because he doesn’t consider those things to be achievements.

    Should’ve just told him his dick is small and he’s a virgin. He would’ve cried himself to sleep over that

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    All of those examples are just secondary achievements. The true purpose of us humans is to live and make life.

    Everything else is just a bonus

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      Imagine thinking that all the secondary stuff does nothing to improve or encourage life. But I guess expecting imagination or thinking from some people is too much to ask.

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      The true purpose of us humans is to live and make life.

      What dictates “true purpose” here? What need does making more life fulfill?

      Your argument is either based on religious indoctrination, or a poor understanding of biology and evolution.

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      Sure; if you’re too simple minded to do anything except follow the animalistic urge to fuck and shit out another unwilling life into this already overpopulated world. Logically, there is no reason to have kids right now. Those who believe it’s the only thing that matters in life are basically biological puppets, unable or unwilling to recognize they are being driven by base level instincts and too selfish to care about the consequences. Just one step removed from monkeys fucking in trees and throwing poop at each other.

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    Margaret Hamilton: Discovered chaos theory and then wrote the software landing the first people on the moon

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      And lately we have preserved a lot of different versions of the compiled/weaved AGU code.

  • Daisy (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    Don’t forget Noether! She discovered one of the most fundamental theorems of the universe: (paraphrasing) there is a 1:1 relationship between a conservation law (eg momentum) and symmetry (eg spacetime). This has shaped a lot of modern physics and helped explain otherwise unexplainable phenomena!

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    This doesn’t even make sense from a (pretty stupid) “you have to have children” point of view, what is stopping women to have kids later in life, when they’ve got an education, know what they want in life, and are financially and mentally stable enough to raise them?

    Of course I know the answer starts with “m” and ends with “isogyny”, but it’s a very stupid take even in its own framework

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      what is stopping women to have kids later in life

      Menopause.

      But anyway, it’s generally a good idea to have children earlier, because you’ll get to spend more time with them and you won’t be the weird old parent in the school. Also health reasons and whatnot.

      As for misogyny, I think it’s mostly from one generation to the next and also more often women to women. Most guys that I know would rather postpone having children as long as possible for the same reasons that you’ve stated.

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      Ok, now listen to me. Please, PLEASE, never again say something like

      it’s a very stupid take even in its own framework

      You never know who’s reading this and I guarantee you that there is always someone ready to take that as a personal challenge.

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        Sometimes I do enjoy making conclusions from stupid and insane premises, can be a fun little thinking exercise. There seems to be a little devil’s advocate in my head.